You are reading a single comment by @hugo7 and its replies. Click here to read the full conversation.
  • The think with the Tories is they had all that. Inflict because of the fact the last 2 leaders were so weak. If Johnson wasn't such a fuck up personally he would have remained in control surely, such was his popularity. So I suppose the fact Starmer seems to want to purge suggests he knows that, probably due to his personal unpopularity, he is a weak leader leading a party that despite the fact it is miles ahead in the poles is actually in a relatively fragile position. They are only really ahead due to the ineptitude of the Tories and the fact that after 14 years EVERYone is sick of them, even natural Tory voters. It's hardly a recipe for success. I'm not fan of Blair, but at least when he first won in 97 there was a sense of positivity and hope, at least until the Iraq shit show. I see and personally feel non of that now, not with anyone really and not even personally as a Labour member. Faiza would have been my MP, I was all ready to start canvassing for her this week and I was excited about her being MP. I feel non of that now, I'm just fucked off with Starmer and the party now and feel no enthusiasm at all., especially after a having a pro Starmer candidate from outside the area dropped on us. I can't see any local members campaigning for Labour at all now. You can't afford to fuck of your membership indefinitely, surely? After all, Starmer owes his position to them. I'm just fucked off really

  • [Johnson] such was his popularity.

    In what sense? With the party members? Definitely. With the party? I'm not sure. With the public? Not really.

    The point with Johnson was that he erased any decent from those who raised any questions in relation to Brexit, because he wanted no barriers to that one issue. Otherwise I don't really think he believed he would ever be brought down. Remember how long it took him to go?

    I might be a bit out of it, but how many left wing labour MPs have been suspended or deselected? Is this list accurate or are there a lot more? https://labourlist.org/2024/05/suspended-expelled-quit-who-are-the-mps-sitting-without-the-labour-whip/?amp

    Personally I don't see him as a weak leader. He's dealt with the antisemitism issue in the public and presses mind. He's set a tone with things like currygate. And he's batted back the SNP Gaza trap while keeping party discipline. Overall given the clusterfuck he started with, he looks to have done a solid job in a short period of time.

About

Avatar for hugo7 @hugo7 started