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  • Labour need to change the game. 5 years of changing the system to prevent the right from coming back is probably better in the long term than any work to undo the shit the Tories brought in over the last 14 years.

  • 5 years of changing the system to prevent the right from coming back is probably better in the long term than any work to undo the shit the Tories brought in over the last 14 years.

    I agree that they need to change the game, but if preventing the right coming back is the primary goal above societal change, we're prioritising electoral success—just the means—above the desired ends of a better system. It's not enough just to win, we need both. The degree to which those goals are at odds, I think, is under explored.

    A lot of our problems also pre-date 2010, and in my view undoing the Tories' egregious policy programme of that last 14 years is the minimum we should be thinking about.

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