MGOOF : Modern groupset on old frame

I’m good thanks- the non-compete is a kick in the balls but c’est la vie.

In terms of your project I’m happy to offer annoyingly difficult suggestions but I’m in Singapore so execution (rather conveniently for me some might say) is something I’m afraid I can’t do.

I’m building this Bottecchia up for a mate - he’s leaving all the decision making up to me so I’m aiming for silver Athena 11 with nitto quill and bars (an alternative is ahead adapter and shimano 6800 as he normally rides shimano)

I’d bought this lairy cable outer for the build years ago - pretty good match I think

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oh sweet neon! love it

I should have a silver Athena 11 group available in the next few weeks...

Alternatively you can still source a centaur groupset in Silver. But Athena is nicer.

Was that meant for me? Yeah true - I’ve got a 10speed silver group with C-Record cranks that could also work…

From the Daccordi? Any idea how much you’d be after?

I will DM you. Probably not today. Hopefully tomorrow!

If you run conventional cable under tension and then heat shrink the signal cables to it whilst holding them under mild tension you should have them straight and true.

Yeah but nah - then you have big ugly fat black cables. For this idea to truly fly, someone who knows bikes has to be able to see the downtube levers on the old bike and think huh, friction shifting a modern group, and then notice the EPS levers and spin out a bit. Intrigued, the subject has a closer look, only to realise the shift cables really are the shift cables, and mind is blown.

The friction levers have a slight job, holding the cables taut to look legit, and a bit of finagling can see the RD cable running tightly under the chainstay and through a derailer loop of housing, which has the job of routing the shift cable and making the chainstay cable stop not redundant. Might need to be pretty clever about holding the end of the RD loop on the derailer...

Probably the biggest hurdle, aside from that, and hiding the battery and that other EPS bit, would be finding some coax close to the right diameter that has clear insulation over silver wire.

Surpass these challenges and it'll be fucking glorious.

I know Shimano DT levers have a counterspring; if you were to delete the friction or indexing they'd actively hold the cable taut.

Did Campy DT levers ever get that sophisticated?

Probably the biggest hurdle, aside from that, and hiding the battery and that other EPS bit, would be finding some coax close to the right diameter that has clear insulation over silver wire.

What about getting the wires to the downtube shifters from the handlebars completely invisibly?

You'd want them to run in mechanical cable outers, for the illusion.

But how they would interface with the brifters is a questiin.

This is all very entertaining but seems unlikely.

In thats case i wouldnt worry about tension, most rubberised electric cables will hold there tension if you pull them tight

What about getting the wires to the downtube shifters from the handlebars completely invisibly?

Good point. Bluetooth?

Surely would have to settle for near-invisibly... Maybe that tape I posted earlier could help...

How about inside the bars, through the stem (probably need to use a welded steel one), and sneak out the bottom of the fork to the underside of the downtube.

Hm. Can't imagine how to get from the bars to the stem without a removable faceplate on the stem, which sort of kills it.

Unless... Use a combo of compressed air and vacuum, and mouse it with wool. Bars basically married to the stem.

Campagnolo had retrofriction at the end of the Super Record era and there was a C Record version that was very nice.

The TVM just about ready for its first ride out once the pedals arrive!, think I’ve set the shifters alittle high :/

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Nice! Shifter position looks good to me but you can rotate the bars down a bit.

Beautiful. Many steel frame colors were mean to accommodate silver groupset/wheels, but this one works perfectly with a black groupset!

Mates Wilier bike.

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Nice!

I think this is my favourite bike in the thread. Absolutely banging

Black headset and BDHU away from being pretty damn perfect.

Yep. Desticker the rims tho?

I'd make the black headset an Innicycle adapter myself, but I'm sure I'm in the minority there

I’ll love to de sticker the rims but they have lacquer over, black headset is on the cards hopefully a Chris king if I can find one!,