• I remember there was lots of this when they first came out. Lots of tech folk bemoaning that they weren't a smaller MacBook, and that they were a joke and wouldn't sell, because who needs a larger phone?

    Then Apple sold gazillions of them.

    I get for a lot of folks, they don't really work well, but they must be great for a bunch of folk we are not, coz' Apple keep shifting and making them.

  • I get for a lot of folks, they don't really work well, but they must be great for a bunch of folk we are not

    Absolutely.

    ..would be interesting to see some surveys / see the screen time info what apps / stuff people are using the iPads for.

    I bet the majority of people just use it as a "large phone", an expensive gadget for browsing / instagram / facebook etc. on the couch (for which it's great I bet, although personally I'm sure I'd miss a proper keyboard much too often).
    I also see a lot of parents putting them in front of their kids on the train etc. so they can watch some shit on it and be quiet.

    Given how capable these things are now (processor wise) I guess they're amazing for retouching, digital drawing etc. - but (as above) I bet the people who have this niche use case where they are happy with just the iPad (and don't need keyboard / mouse) to do actual work are an absolute minority..

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