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Bingo.
@PhilDAS While I am no slouch they are indeed both stronger than me, I will concede that.
@Kimmo also nailed it. I've ridden a couple of more modern bikes on holiday recently and they've tainted my enjoyment of the Fondriest. The Aethos I rented has ruined me, as a mate predicted it would.
If funds allowed I'd be keeping this built up, but they wont and I wanna go faster.
FWIW my gravel bike and daily are both steel, and one of them has daft paint so I can hopefully cling on to a shred of credibility there :D
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I think for older steel frames it's the stiffness rather than the weight that makes them feel worse when climbing.