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I hear/read the 'Labour are the same as the Tories' nonsense in lots of places so the rant wasn't about discussion on here.
Discussion and criticism is obviously fine but I will continue to call out the thunderers who come up with 'Keith' or 'Sir Kid Starver' if that's ok with you.
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but I will continue to call out the thunderers who come up with 'Keith' or 'Sir Kid Starver' if that's ok with you.
ha, yes
I hear it from non-political folk too — my mate at work, who is conservative-leaning but "doesn't do politics", says it often and it irks me no end.
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'Keith' or 'Sir Kid Starver'
Quite enjoy Keith, don't know where it came from, or why. Kid Starver feels a little too #FBPE/cockwomble for my tastes but curious why it bothers you so much?
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chickenbones
I know this is a rant to get it off your chest, so sorry if this comes across as argumentative, but these statements—from the left at least—are generally not being literal about exact equality between the major parties' policy programmes, as I'm sure you've figured out. Any vaguely left-wing commenter can clearly see the destructive nature of the Conservative government and it's basically without question that Labour is preferable.
I don't like the simplistic framing of these statements either—they're not informative, they reduce the level of debate, but equally they're entirely valid value judgements. The most recent post by @chickenbones was sarcastically highlighting what they believed to be an indication of Labour returning to old rhetoric that blames the unemployed, for example.
^This is just as much a value judgement too, and that's totally fine, but pretending that Labour is beyond criticism pushes discussion in the same direction: more partisan, more derision, just vibes (take a look at some of your other replies calling people tankies for christ's sake).
The parties' directions are obviously different to me, but that doesn't mean Labour are meeting the threshold for the progressive change we need. There are certainly some problematic similarities, so I'd have thought that talking about the direction of the next government would be good and necessary.
LFGSS is full of lefties anyway, surely we can criticise both without pretending it'll have any serious electoral effect?