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  • Wondering if anyone's got advice on training running and cycling at once? I've been gently getting back into running over winter and now very excited about it and doing a 20k race at end of May. However, the weather has finally turned and I'm trying to kick my butt into gear for a trip to Marseille mountains which will be 10 days before the 20k running.

    My aim is to be doing 100-120k rides in Marseille with 1000-2000m elevation without bonking 50k from home. Right now, I'm riding twice per week and have extended my range to around 90–100 Belgian kilometres in about 3.5 hours. Run-wise, I go 4 or 5 times a week with long runs close to 20k and trying to be roughly 80/20 for training. I'd like to do the 20k in about 1hr20m (so 4m/km).

    I'm not following a strict training schedule but just get out when I can. The running I have been cautious with as I broke my femur and pelvis four years ago and subsequently am very cautious and do mucho mobility every day. I've had a couple of false starts on the running since the accident, a couple of years ago got a bit ahead of myself and did a couple of sub-40 10k times but then my hips said an emphatic no and I was hobbling round for a few months. I'll turn 30 this year so trying to acquire some wisdom and not obsess about PBs any more.

    Ultimately I want to do both these hobbies sustainably and if that means easing off the gas now for longer-term gains I will gladly do that. But would much appreciate any advice on how to improve at both simultaneously.

  • Those 10 days between the cycling and 20k are pretty critical. IMO, use them for recovery and staying loose - essentially a taper.

    How many days is the cycling trip? If it’s 3-4 days that’s one thing but if it’s 7-10 of smashing it out in the mountains then obviously a different matter.

    Probably don’t need to be running 5 days a week, 4 is probably fine and you can probably keep it almost completely zone 2 (which you already are).

    Easy long runs on a consistent schedule just naturally get you faster but if you’re doing cycling as well then drop the 5th run and focus more on recovery.

  • Agreed on the gap between cycling and running being key. I'll probably have accumulated a load of TSS in Marseille, for which I'll be aiming for probably three 100k + rides and a couple of shorter ones. Probably will be doing my best to hit that hard as it's the year's main cycling holiday. But I just looked at Strava from last year and this time I'll be heading out with a much better level, so that's reassuring.

    And yes also to the 4 days/week running; I do most of it first thing in the morning so starts easy then sometimes do a couple of clicks at "race pace" once I'm properly awake. The one thing I'm thinking is to try to make sure I get a longer run in during the week as this has been knocked out by a couple of dry days where I actually did a ride rather than the long run.

    My week roughly looks like this:
    Monday - long ride
    Tuesday - easy run
    Wednesday - longer run/fast run (time depending)
    Thursday - easy run
    Friday - longer run
    Saturday - long ride
    Sunday - maybe a short run

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