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  • Street Triple 765R does sound a bit weaponised for a first bike but I also reckon it depends entirely on the head on your shoulders.

    Pretty much what Guru Geoff said. I'm used to driving cars with a power to weight ratio well in excess of 300bhp/ton (hello Golf Club), and with no electronic driver aids at all, over moutain roads where if you go off, the chances are you're not coming back other than in a box. So I might survive.

    What I really want is a Matchless Model X*, but in the meantime I suspect some electronic safety nettage is probably not a bad thing.

    • anna Kawasaki Z1A anna Honda CBX1000 anna Norton 18H with girder forks...
  • Pretty much what Guru Geoff said. I'm used to driving cars with a power to weight ratio well in excess of 300bhp/ton (hello Golf Club), and with no electronic driver aids at all,

    Absolutely shit all correlation with motorcycles. A pice of humble pie: you know nothing about motorcycles. There is simply no similar skill set. And the margin for error are tiny.

    Until you know the feeling of not being able to get the bike to turn rapidly enough, you'll never understand. High sides (a sad result of over steer) and low sides (under steer) exist but on the street with modern traction control the more likely novice accident is simply not being able to make the turn happen and going to to the ditch / rail / oncoming traffic with a 300 lb gorilla for a companion.

    The consequences of a speed miscalculation on motorcycle are always dire. It doesn't matter what speed. Dropping the bike at 10 mph sucks. 20 mph is like crashing on a bicycle at a fucking clip. 40 mph is incomprehensible. 60? 80?

    I actually do think some people can get a big fast bike to learn on, just not everyone. Some of your racecar, no dependents statement are what makes me question your perspective on the task.

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