Third hand American wonders

i actually have a non-crossbared easton carbon riser already with similar amount of rise. the moné is obviously much nicer but this inspired me to consider the easton when the time comes.

Whisky Parts Milhouse? - they’re very light (but pricey!).

is there anything like sim works cow cow but with a bit more backsweep?

replying to myself: soma dream of course.

again, very nice but unobtainium 2nd hand and my budget is already stretched with the wheel build.

Hunter Smooth Move surely?

lots of carbon alt bar experts around - come on in, please! some of these have more rise than the 50mm on the somas i found for £30, which would be welcome. can't commit to anything finer until it looks like the build has long-term potential.

did some extremely rough geo calculations and it seems i'd be looking at 150mm if not 200mm spacer stack even in the optimistic scenarios. drawing courtesy of this tool which i'm not sure i used correctly.

the saddle at my saddle height is ~300mm higher than the upper headset bearing. if the bars are 50mm lower than the saddle and the rise on them counters 50mm of the difference, there's another ~200mm to kill with stem length/angle and le spacer stack. guaranteed agricultural looks as on kenny's radavist whip here:

perhaps even scarier is that the calculator shows 80 degrees for the head angle. this surely isn't rideable? i may have not accounted the size difference between the japanese guy's deluxe and mine when signing off the purchases...

Joe Breeze once built a bike with an 80-degree head angle, just to see what would happen. He says that after he learned to ride it, it felt normal. then when he got back on his regular bike, it felt like steering through mud. You can learn to ride just about anything.

That geo drawing looks off. In particular the fork dims.

the "Calculated Axle-To-Crown Length + Lower Headset Stack (mm)" shows 418mm, which should be close to the fork's recommended 400mm + 15mm from the lower headset cups? the wheel sizes look off too so might well be effed all along.

happy to provide dims if someone more capable wants to draw.

perhaps even scarier is that the calculator shows 80 degrees for the head angle.

Seems off. Pretty sure the general rule is a 1 degree change for 20mm change in fork height. What was the original head angle?

It is designed to replace a 400mm A-C fork, but do you have what the actual A-C is on a clydesdale fork? I couldn't see it from a quick squint at the crust website.

good point, the actual a-c i just measured is 480mm. back to the drawing board…

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Yeah the fork is too short in the drawing. It's close to the 400mm that it is supposed to replace but the front wheel is smaller so you've tipped it all forward. The actual length of the fork is not 400 + headset, it's quite a bit longer

Sorry, far too slow on the refresh

not sure about this particular one as it's custom but found another 26er from the same era with 71 head and 72 seat.

Regarding hi rise handlebars - ergotec/humpert makes a 70mm rise 780mm wide with 12 degree back sweep an a couple of degrees up sweep.
It is basically a poor continental European’s Hunter Smooth Move

What about using a Limp Dick style stem to take up some of the potentially necessary spacer stack?

Sounds like you need a Soma crane stem, 80mm stack to get rid of the spacer tower. Some rise to life the bars ups, could run some flat sweeps instead.

If only someone had one for sale 🤗

this might be closer to truth with 493mm a-c, 150mm of spacers, 100mm stem and the 50mm rise soma dream. the seated fit matches with the corresponding figures for my other bikes with leeway for a shorter stem. danger's over, #buying continues.

not too keen on how this looks on the japanese guy's bike, would rather put the spacers.

this isn't too bad but i don't mind the spacers instead of the smooth stem plate. alu stem and spacers is both cheaper and more performance.

https://www.merlincycles.com/cannondale-cruise-control-handlebars-304238.html

hahah these are sweet

i've got some 9'' bmx bars and stem in the cupboard wouldsort this right out

somewhere around 2kg together, so pretty light

not too shabby these. the only thing is i kind of require proper backsweep to save my only riding wrist.