Third hand American wonders

lots of carbon alt bar experts around - come on in, please! some of these have more rise than the 50mm on the somas i found for £30, which would be welcome. can't commit to anything finer until it looks like the build has long-term potential.

did some extremely rough geo calculations and it seems i'd be looking at 150mm if not 200mm spacer stack even in the optimistic scenarios. drawing courtesy of this tool which i'm not sure i used correctly.

the saddle at my saddle height is ~300mm higher than the upper headset bearing. if the bars are 50mm lower than the saddle and the rise on them counters 50mm of the difference, there's another ~200mm to kill with stem length/angle and le spacer stack. guaranteed agricultural looks as on kenny's radavist whip here:

perhaps even scarier is that the calculator shows 80 degrees for the head angle. this surely isn't rideable? i may have not accounted the size difference between the japanese guy's deluxe and mine when signing off the purchases...

Joe Breeze once built a bike with an 80-degree head angle, just to see what would happen. He says that after he learned to ride it, it felt normal. then when he got back on his regular bike, it felt like steering through mud. You can learn to ride just about anything.