• Thanks, they look pretty quick and easy to fit/remove too, and still might be able to thread tho my front bar cable mess.

    Looks like similar for the back would work tho my monostay is way fatter than any handlebar adaptors they show, so may need a bodge to fit that at the back.

    Would still prefer a rear rack that most of rack detaches with a clip, leaving only minimal clamp on frame. The less attachments I can break myself on in mtb stacks the better I think :)

  • Chair etc does sound like you want to be carrying quite a bit. Though I do love having a chair.

    The Ortlieb Quick-rack may fit your bike?

  • The chair actually packs up with the tent ok, and is of those things I always regret not bringing so it's defo coming.

    As ever with camping you never quite know how much space you need until you start packing all the shit together, so we'll see, but thimk i ok. My upcoming trip has car campers coming along so I can always throw some bulky stuff in their car this time out, but will surely refine what I take over the coming months.

    And cheers for rack suggestion, like the look of that, they on sale in Condor too so actually have a shop I can go and see if it actually fits frame, which seems pretty rare. There's nowhere in London I can see that does Revelate designs stuff for example so I can rock up and test stuff.

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