Bikepacking - a viable alternative to racks & panniers

Thanks a lot for this, I'll investigate those. Reckon that's frame and top tube bag and some band on bottle cage mounts sorted.

I'm used to riding all day with a 4-5kg ruksak so thought I might as well use the donkey rider as a beast of burden for some lugging, with the bladder and few things in backpack.

I'm only going to be exploring Wales, Scotland and Northern England, not crossing continents in a few days like you and @skinny so overheating isn't going to be a problem.

And ha I didn't mean mean a pointy loaf front rack for the aeroz, more that a pointy loaf would fit better in the gap between bar cables. Tho surely it is more aeroz even on a mtb. Has XavD and the Aerocoach crew not been 'dragged' into the backpacking realm yet for you country crushing riders?

I had thought rolls would be a problem up front as again the bulgy outty cables would be in the way, but yes as @cheekysnaker (thanks!) suggests the salsa or some other sort of bracket that pushes bracket out from bars 3-4 inches looks the way to go, so thanks for that, and i can srrap a drag bag/sleeping bag to that. Something like that might work on the rear monostay too.

And @skinny just thinking up to a week but more often 2-4 days. I like light but not slumming it in a ditch style, have decent tent, want at least 2 rings for cooking, thinking 2 of those firebox nanos as love the design and tiny pack size, probs ti for full tart light weight tart option. And just ordered a lofi cup cooker with powerbank fan to test for quick morning tea and variable heat and aa a 3rd ring option. (#gastrotwat) Have airmattress, chair , and down sleeping bag so got most of the camp kit.

I love good design so don't I'd paying for something genuinely great, but happy to bodge gaffer tape and ziptie if they the best solutioms.

That's given me more googling so thanks all.