Should vegans use shimano?

personally i would like to ban buying from a country that colonised most of the world and reaped profits for centuries while indulging in slave trade ..

.. but Greggs is just too delicious

How exactly are you posting this comment?

i mean i am all for being quirky and vegan or whatever but passing blanket judgement on half of the living world shows severe lack of self awareness

This, a lot this

That reply works on two levels. Rep

sram doesn’t work in 2x

SRAM doesn't work

(damn it, I can no longer maintain this lie, I'm buying AXS)

I'm buying AXS

Burn the heretic!

i mean i am all for being quirky and vegan or whatever but passing blanket judgement on half of the living world shows severe lack of self awareness

Making a big public point of one's quirkiness and purist vegan stance gets full marks on the Virtue Signalling Scorecard though.

Shimano need to pull their finger out with electronic MTB stuff. I love their road stuff but I'm not buying XTR level shit for my MTB.

I use money and my purchasing decisions to support basic human rights. I am not anti-chinese, but i am anti-authoritarian. I believe we all have a responsibility to stand up for people who have no voice.

The CCP has unquestionably raised the living standards and life prospects for the majority of the country's population, but there have been, and are some, terrible abuses of power along the way.
Obviously, the wealth that we enjoy in Europe now was built on the back of ruthless exploitation of people in poor countries over the last few centuries. There has never been a more ruthless bunch of gangsters than the British East India Company - who got legitimized and became empire. I am not a jingoist, blind to the awful debilitating impact of imperialism. During ww2 Winston Churchill made decisions about army food supplies that created famine and mass starvation in what was British India. The man was a massive racist even by the standards of a very racist time.
I am not seeking to enter into a competition about who has done worse things when. What i am trying to do is highlight bad things happening now - and avoid endorsing them through my purchasing decisions.

I haven't had a recent head injury. I've had several in the past. I don't much care for your tone in this regard.

Parklife.

What i am trying to do is highlight bad things happening now - and avoid endorsing them through my purchasing decisions.

Quite right. People sitting quietly on river banks, mostly not catching fish, is undoubtedly one of the most pressing moral issues we face today. Well done for your principled stance against such an outrage.

Yooo this thread's taken quite a turn lol.

Just my two pence - as someone whose born and bred here but has also lived in South-Central Asia, Africa and the Middle East, this Great Kingdom feels far more authoritarian and a deserving target for divesting/banning than any of those so-called despotic regimes.

Still, to each their own. I admire the effort, though I probably disagree at least a little on who (if anyone) is on any moral high ground here. In fact, I might have to boycott and divest in any and everyone and live in some random Pacific island if I wanted to achieve satisfactory freedom from guilt.

Good luck.

P.S. SRAM sucks even though all my proper bikes are AXS or Eagle.

I think this is the dumbest thing I've read this week.

Of all the bad things happening in the world, Shimano and their contribution to fishing has to be up there. Rep

Shimano is an anagram of is no ham. So I think it would be OK to keep using it.

It's tough enough already trying to adhere to vegan diet and principles, give yourself a break and relax on this aspect of consumer choice. I once obtained a copy of the vegetarian society handbook and it ruined many things for me that I didn't know contained animal products, sometimes it's best not to know!

Your research is incomplete, the true meaning of Shimano, Is No Ham, is nothing to do with the delicate wafer thin preserved pork treat. It is in fact a reference to the founder not being very into CB radio when literally everybody else was jumping onto that trendy radio band wagon. 10-4 good buddy

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If it was a genuine question then yes, vegans should continue to use shimano (a sentence I could have never predicted be written). If the thread was a pose to vent your already entrenched view then why not steel yourself against the incoming fervent arguments against? As a first action I might suggest engaging a different argument for your viewpoint instead of attempting to override colonial and post-colonial viewpoints because fuckin hell you'll look a fool every which way you go down that path.

Oh hell yes

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many things for me that I didn't know contained animal products

Yeah I always wonder how many glues the strict vegetable-sniffers have to avoid in order to stay truly karmic on their consistency journey

And look at her fucking OWL god that cover has everything!

Yes, but factually, who caused the emergency channel anarchy? Enquiring minds need to know.

Tackling the big issues in this thread! I'm not going to trawl the net for evidence, but I'd hazard a guess that the overall impact of Shimano products results in a net gain to fish and their environments. It's the awful commercial/dredging stuff that really needs to stop.

Unless the OP is trolling, in which case he's reeled us right in.