Should vegans use shimano?

As a long term vegan, i have decided that given that Shimano generates about 20% of its revenue from fishing-related products that i will no longer use its cycling-related products.

Anyone else gone down this line? (no pun intended - but i can't help myself)

Do you also not shop in major supermarkets? Because I'm sure a lot of there revenue comes from selling non-vegan items.

In fact I think that it's very difficult to only consume things from companies that do not generate revenue from non-vegan things.

I don't mean to criticise though, fair play to you for choosing to do that. Unfortunately you're probably going to have to use SRAM though...

Do you ever use public transport or cars? Do you use footpaths or roads? All non-vegan or created by non-vegan companies.

On the flip side, if you did want to stop giving Shimano for any reason, you could still buy their stuff second hand, then they get no money from you and you're not creating a new product which will inevitably end up as microplastic in your precious fishies.

One of the old shimano ads was “happiness is a rod in your hand”. As a young child and fishing enthusiast, I didn’t get the joke.
Edit- it might have been Shakespear which makes this post even more irrelevant.

lol

Recreational fishing isn't putting a scratch in population.

Boycott everything and buy second hand. There’s enough stuff about

Sure but if you prop up second hand prices then you make Shimano more popular for new buyers and help their sales indirectly, don't you?

Fergal Sharkey campaigns to keep chalk streams clean because he's a Fisherman, he want's rivers full of fish not shit. You can argue that Sport Non Commercial Fishers, the sort of people Shimano supplies, are ultimately actually good for the fish and the environments they live in.

Would the same apply for Garmin given that they make marine navigation?

Thomson make military munitions

But people killing each other is possibly good for the environment, so possibly this doesn't help the argument.

Non-Vegan here. Morally, I get your reasoning and have ceased using products and services for many companies on various ethical, political and religious grounds. Over the years, I've learnt that it's not always a consistent journey and often weigh up the pros/cons of any avoidance.

If I were a vegan, I'd probably focus my energy avoiding the businesses that have the most, 'devastating' impact. My ignorant assumption is that Shimano is barely causing any harm and promotes sustainable behaviours.

Unfortunately it's pretty tough to totally avoid businesses that don't exploit animals in some way. I've been vegan for over a decade and my criteria for which brands to exploit is much less strict than that. There are bigger fish to fry (pun very intended). You've just got to do your best to live ethically in an unethical world! If you can manage it, go for it but I don't think I could.

Edit: by that last sentence I meant live completely ethically and only consume products from a totally vegan/ethical company. I'm not saying I couldn't live without 105.

It’s not that unusual. Ditch Shimano. There was the big hoohaa over Giro being involved with weapons investment and manufacturing a few years ago. As a long term Campag user, I’d say stick with the small, pure family cycling brands.

https://www.bicycling.com/news/a20049195/vista-outdoor-boycott-guns-nra/

Thomson make munitions?

Really? It doesn't look like L H Thomson (lhthomson.com) have any arms manufacturing capabilities? Or do you mean the work they've done for Boeing?

Patagonia make military uniforms...

It’s what Robin Mather told me bitd

Thomson make creaky, under sized posts, who gives a fuck what else they make.

Creaky, undersized bombs apparently.
Many good points here. I would also say that vegan is not the only filter for my purchasing decisions. I try to buy almost everything second hand. I will not buy items produced in countries ruled by authoritarian regimes (which rules out an awful lot), for example no amount of sustainable accreditation is going to persuade me to buy a product made in china since there is no chance of meaningful accountability there.

Who buys groupsets thinking "I'm picking SRAM because it holds its value better on ebay"?

Fewer people is good for the environment. I'm not sure discharging munitions is.

Dick

You ever visited?

No need to be rude.

do you have a recent head injury?