• Just a head up, Sonder geometry is very MTB-like rather than touring, meaning it got quite a slow but steady steering unladen.

    It’s great fun off road, very stable and sensible on road, enough clearance for 2.1 650b, reckon 700 x 50 is fine.

    I really hate the cable routing on the headtube which make it tricky with a bar bag.

  • I know it's quite dirt and touring orientated, but would like to use it for a lot of road miles as well, currently riding Sutra LTD with 445 mmchainstays, 80 mm stem and 71 HA and is fine generally (not the most agile of course), wondering if even shorter stem with 69 HA will not be too cumbersome on tarmac. What do you think about it?
    Otherwise it will be at least 2 kg drop on frameset so would be much lighter bike, the only downside is lack of front fork drilling, so I would have to locate my dynamo light somewhere around the handlebar.

  • I reckon you’ll enjoy it, it felt slower to steer but not cumbersome to ride.

    E.g climbing steep road (like 20%) is quite nice with a very stable steering, especially getting out of the saddle.

    I chosen 650b as the smaller wheels mean it got slightly less wheel flop.

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