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Indeed, personally think the 12.5L Ortliebs are spot on, and have used them with a bike that doesn't ride well with much on the front.
Now also have the 10L Tailfins for MTB bikepacking. Bit more secure and lighter, pack all the essentials easily and might be preferable if weight is a concern.
The adventure rack looks great too.
I spy eyelets, rear rack and Ortlieb gravel panniers will give you 25L. It won't be that much heavier with the right rack, like a Tubus Vegas Evo.