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  • I'm late to the party at Streatham but just looking at it today.

    On the placement of modal filters - there may be something to be said here about here about the benefits of 'invisible infrastructure.' As Oliver knows I understand the general best practice & advice to install filters centrally within neighbourhoods - that makes sense for technical and practical reasons. Here in St Peters Islington being a good example with filters within the neighbourhood on Duncan Terrace, St Peters St, Danbury Street; these are effectively 'invisible' from motorists queuing on the adjacent City Road or A1 / Essex Road.

    I wonder whether putting the filters next to the main road in Streatham also contributes to the PR nightmare for that project - with drivers, motorists and bus users literally looking at the very visible modal filters along the side roads, while 'stuck in traffic' queuing on the main road.

  • In Fulham they've done it with APNR and it's still attracting a lot of opposition from the usual suspects. There are some people losing out though, local businesses who relied on parking in the adjacent streets have seen a decline in footfall.

  • I wonder whether putting the filters next to the main road in Streatham also contributes to the PR nightmare for that project - with drivers, motorists and bus users literally looking at the very visible modal filters along the side roads, while 'stuck in traffic' queuing on the main road.

    Without question--engineers often think that by sticking them on side street entrances they can make the junctions simpler/reduce the number of junctions etc., but a good street, even a main street, needs a healthy rhythm of junctions. If the cell is filtered internally, you end up with a normal, easy-to-read junction where drivers on the main drag expect that traffic will come out, influencing their behaviour, as opposed to hooning it past 'closed' side streets with no expectation of interaction. The junction of Southgate Road and Northchurch Road in De Beauvoir is a very good example. It would benefit if the filter there were moved inside the cell to the east.

    A central filter does a far better job than one on the edge in every respect, as it creates shorter distances to drive in and out of the cell, with a better effect on driving speeds and a more logical structure of a cell.

    It does always baffle me, though, why so many people don't understand such a simple point and fail to appreciate how important it is--maybe they think it can't be important because it is so simple ...

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