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  • Is it more important to

    1. Get the ceasefire, or
    2. Get the ceasefire while pontificating from your soapbox about the reasons for Israeli government policy, to make sure everyone knows how virtuous you are?

    The "collective punishment" bit isn't going to convince anyone to vote for the ceasefire who wasn't already, but it might deter some people who don't want to get into an argument about Zionism with the ADL.

    Edit: I obviously mean "get (a clear call for) a ceasefire", since we can't just impose one.

  • The SNP motion is hardly an exercise in soapbox virtue signalling.

    I'd say collective punishment should get people angry and vote accordingly. Many have spent months of time pontificating about the correct word salad to appear virtuous too, and that's hardly pursuing a realistic end to the violence.

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