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mmm I get you - I've always just used the standard exped ones you can get in Millets, I use one for my camera in a stem bag too, that gets fairly beaten up as it comes out on every ride but no signs of damage yet. I tend not to bother with the roll top for tools/medical, I roll the entire thing round itself so its more space-efficient in a frame bag
I use 1L dry bags for this sort of thing, though I'm not doing anything as gooch-destroying as you. For audax/touring I have two: one with medical-adjacent stuff in and one with tools that are additional to my normal ride tools