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  • The shelter costs are what get you. Everything else is relatively cheaper than it was in the 70s, people just buy too much shit and need to eat out multiple times per week and expect to go on holiday twice or more per year.

  • Two hoildays is hardly out there is it? Nor is two meals out. Probably with only one alcoholic drink.

    Idk when we lived in NYC in 2017/18, my estimate was you'd need a household income of ~$250k to live what I'd think of as a standard UK middle class lifestyle.

    Even back then the cost of non-shit food was astronomical. I'd split our shopping between 3 supermarkets* to save money and bring costs somewhere in the region of a shop at F&M. Here I tend to do a food shop at Aldi and household stuff at Tesco, but I wouldn't devote time to being militant about visiting specific shops.

    I know New York is New York, but it struck me as so much more expensive on every level.

    *Stop & Shop, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's. Sometimes Target too. In case anyone's curious.

  • Two hoildays is hardly out there is it? Nor is two meals out. Probably with only one alcoholic drink.

    I say it is, but I grew up not expecting that level of luxury.
    I would guess I’m a lot older than you and that will definitely affect my pov.

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