Cycling in the high mountains. Alps, Dolomites, Pyrenees etc

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Philbythesea in reply to @fredtc

I'm biased because I live there, but if you head south then I think it would be more fun going from Valence than Lyon. The 'terre froide' bit between Lyon and Grenoble is a bit dull. Lyon to Valence is only 1hr on the regional (TER) train, or there are occasional TGV trains Lyon St Exupery to Valence that take 35 mins. From Valence Ville or Valence TGV you can cross the Vercors to Grenoble.

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andyp in reply to @Philbythesea

I disagree. Head due east from Lyon and you quickly hit the southern end of the Jura, and can ride climbs like the Grand Colombier, Mont du Chat and Mont Revard, all of which are interesting and scenic cols.

If you want to head south from there to Grenoble (and the Vercors) then you can go over the three classic cols of the Chartreuse, the Granier, the Cucheron and the Porte.

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Philbythesea in reply to @andyp

Disagree? And without using capitals?
I agree with you, east to the Jura looks good, it was just that if he was heading south / south-east from Lyon, then that big flat area is a bit boring.

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