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• #8527
Oooh ovalised top tube is nice, aesthetically I really like it on my Faran. What’s the high mount point on the seat tube?
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• #8528
mounting points for the frame bag I assume?
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• #8529
Tasteful curve on that frame bag. Personally prefer a more abrupt transition but it works well here.
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• #8530
I feel exactly the same. With the development of the sideloader cages I have come to love the idea of maximised bag storage capacity and with bolt on (@samrensho is correct) framebags and @Tijmen's lovely radiuses it's working out great and ends up looking mega clean.
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• #8531
Well, it's my take on a Max top tube really. I like the tapering in a horizontal plane towards the seat tube, but in a Max top tube it also tapers in a vertical plane towards the head tube, and that often doesn't work for me with oversized head tubes at least. Looks out of balance imo.
So... I make my own from a round OD31.8mm top tube normally, or in this case a Zona OD28.6mm.
It also offers me an opportunity to do the little fish mouth transitions as the top tube ends up wider than the seat tube. And I have found that this little non-functional detail spark great joy with me. I love looking at it and I love making it... For some strange reason.The frame is totally undersized in tubing diameters as per my normal tube selections. @Pish and I have had a great chat about how he can get a lighter and more comfortable ride suited to his physique. I am sad I will never get to try and feel how it's going to ride, but I have great faith in what we are trying to achieve here. Tubes are a mix of Spirit and Zona and I think it will be a great loooong distance bike.
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• #8532
Well, it's my take on a Max top tube really. […] I make my own from a round OD31.8mm top tube normally, or in this case a Zona OD28.6mm.
Wait, you shape your own tube starting from a round one? Can you tell/show more about this?
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• #8533
I don't have any photos it seems. I'll make sure to register it on the next frame, but it is literally two slightly tapered pieces of wood in a vise and then I apply a bit of Artisanal Squeeze™
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• #8534
I found some old photos. Same principle
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• #8535
Joe at Cobra frameworks posted something similar the other day too. Little bit more in their saved/pinned stories.
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• #8536
My radii bring all the boys to the yard.
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• #8537
Yes exactly that. Totally normal
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• #8538
Ding Swingers
Really made me laugh!
I always enjoy your updates Mads, really inspirational and thanks for taking us on this journey of growth!!
The way you ovalize tubes seems like the the right way to do it IMO...If I were to do it, thats how I would attempt...
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• #8539
It's his fish mouth that does it
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• #8540
650Bx2" tyres + 64mm mudguards on 425mm chainstays with 1x road cranks was a little tricky. We got there in the end tho.
Oh and there some Nalgene/wide mouth cages coming...
Epic day in the workshop!
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• #8541
Now that is nice.
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• #8542
Thanks. Theres been surprisingly many interested in nalgene size cages so better make some..
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• #8543
Meanwhile I've been designing this monster of a yoke for Stayer OMGs.
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• #8544
I'm one of those as I only own a nalgene and a klean kanteen bottle
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• #8545
Very nice, I'm interested why you took such an 'organic' path for the cable routing? Will it be possible to clear the powder from the tiny volumes at the chainstay ends?
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• #8546
The "rail" is defined by the shape of the yoke and sort of the easiest softest route through the yoke. The circular cross section is ø7mm ID for nice clearance for the cable/hose at the end of the channel the cross section is ø12mm to make it easier to guide the cable through. Using the sweep along rail command gives it this organic truncated look. Which I kind of like. It fits the outer appearance well I think. I've only been using SubD (and T-spline in fusion) modelling for a couple of years, but since we are 3D printing more and more I try to embrace to more organic look logic.
I call it The Cor Yoke as it reassembles a heart/organ a bit.
The 3d printing facility hasn't gotten back to us yet. But if the mini voids are a problem we will probably just make that part solid. They take care of all internal mesh structures anyways
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• #8547
I'll get them done as soon as possible
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• #8548
Sounds like a valid methodology! With 3D printing there's no reason to minimise the number of bends you need to put in the tube, so why not make it a bit wavy rather than just two larger curves. I doubt it would make any noticeable difference to cable friction or ease of routing.
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• #8549
And don't forget some "lower" cages. :-)
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• #8550
Qué? They are already 20mm (I think) lower than the average cage. On my website I have pdf drawing with measurements. You can print it out in 1:1 and use as a test template to see if it fits
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Switching up my process for this bike. Its gonna be fab and because its gonna be fab its obviously gonna get some ding swingers luggage
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