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I've dealt with that

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Both need bolting attaching to something as they won't balance by them selves.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325944518177?
This one looks interesting and more stable from the photo's

EDIT I have no experience with this.

Nooo
Trust me, those folding things are terrible

Oh, as I said looks more stable...

Flimsy wheel things, to me make the building a balanced wheel harder IMO.

I used to build wheels for cycles and motorcycles on something like this. I bought it from hiene gerricke in Stockwell.

After that fuck up, this is the abba version, who make bike stands https://abbastands.co.uk/images/products/display/abba-wheelbalancer-01.jpg

I bought the Motorcross wheel building version. That can be used for cycle wheels. Note motorcross/off road as road motorbike have smaller circumferences and wider rims than cycles

Ffs

Must be stable - that link weighs at least 5kilos

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More like 5 pages...one is a right royal fuckwit...

And I haven't had any alcohol.

That'll do it

I almost forgot

Remember, I built my own single twist snowflake wheels!

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I'd prefer a stand over a dishing tool and tension meter. You can flip the wheel in a stand to eliminate dish and a tension meter is a great idea for building good wheels for other people to check overall tension, but if you've got a similar wheel you trust you can get it good enough for yourself, even tension is easier by ear and more important. No need for a mega expensive stand for occasional home use though, but they do make things easier.

I bought the Parktool tension meter recently so have one of these to sell if anyone wants it for £20 posted.

https://www.wiggle.com/p/lifeline-spoke-tension-meter

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Even without calibrating them you can just flip the wheel over to check dish, although it makes things a lot easier if it's bang on and you don't need to apart from as a final confirmation.

I don't see why you need a stand. Unless I'm missing something all you need is a spoke key, dishing tool & experience. Maybe also a tension meter.

You are correct, but I like tools, so I treated myself for Christmas.
And yes experience is the most important tool, the one I don't have. I already cocked up some of my prep so couldn't start my wheel on Saturday (was convinced the spare open pro I had was 36h, turns out it's 32h - though I remember checking but eh - so now I need to find an equivalent ERD rim as I've bought spokes :/ )
I had a different stand when building my first and only ever 3 wheels years back, I seem to remember it helped though. My dishing tool is homemade, adjustable so I potentially could do a Brompton wheel, the smallest wheel I have... Hope I get to use that one day...

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fabric looks like it features a repeating coffee bean pattern

Had not noticed before. It's a "kid proof" Ikea rug.

Well I thought you may have been inviting a countering opinion

I was indeed asking before Christmas, when contemplating buying some cheaper / no brand truing stands on eBay, but no answers or feedback at the time so I fell into the abyssal internet quest of comparing things, watching videos, etc., which conveniently lead me to over-equipping myself (thru a decent eBay second hand deal and a really nice seller actually)

Have you tried changing the ERD in your calculation to see what constitutes a material difference?

Yes I have now, and ordered a Sputnik rim from SJS. Spokes I'd already procured are bang on on the NDS, and only 1mm too long on DS (604mm ERD vs 602mm ERD). Should be fine. The spare rim that turned out to be 32h instead of 36 was the only old bit of the wheel, had it in the garage for years, it's been laced before. Now everything 's new, probably for the best.

You don't mention the hub

It's the controversial Sturmey Archer fixed 3 speed hub, which I've been wanting to try for a while in order to ride fixed again, which I've not been able to do in over 5 years, due to moving house and having to climb crystal palace on my commute!

Up to 80% off on spokes and nipples

https://www.superstarcomponents.com/en/shop/mountain/spokes/

That's helpful, was about to order some alpina for a couple of wheels but this will cost the same with spares.

No worries 👊🏻