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  • Looks good. Have been enjoying Chemex over Christmas as a change from the usual v60. I think the thicker filters make the most difference. I feel the bigger/ wider Chemex makes nicer coffee than the small/ narrow one.

  • I have an annoying PID question...

    DIY'ing a PID to my Gaggia Baby Millennium and need to piggyback live and neutral wires to power the PID.

    I've found the live and neutral mains (with a multimeter no less!) running from the main power outlet which both run to the power switch on the front of the machine. Presumably I can simply piggyback off these connections?

    Various guides say to piggyback the live mains at the power switch and the neutral mains at the outlet itself, but this would mean trying to piggyback into a terminal box, which doesn't feel good...

    It would be much simpler to tap both live and neutral at the power switch (mainly because there's a lot more room), but is there an obvious circuitry based reason why I shouldn't?

    Note - fully aware that people won't want to give electrical advice, this is from a paper based, circuit only perspective!

  • It probably doesn't matter if:
    The power to the PID is after the power switch (so that it's only receiving power when the rest of the components are, not just when the machine is plugged in)
    The power to the PID also has the same circuit protection that the rest of the components do (fuse)

  • Not sure which guide/advice you're following but I've piggybacked off the switch wiring in the past thanks to an online pdf by Auber, who also make a kit for these machines.

  • It's the https://heald.ca/adding-a-diy-pid-to-the-gaggia-classic-pro/ version. Not sure if that helps/hinders?

    @rpm agreed. That's been my logic (whether or not I've achieved that technically...)

  • Any interest in my old Gaggia Classic - from 2014. It’s been boxed up in my loft for many years so could do with a new gasket but otherwise all good. Was thinking £80 picked up (I’m in East Greenwich).


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  • Yes but if you can package/post it?

  • I’d really rather not. I’d need to find a box and time to post etc. etc.

  • No worries. If you change your mind just shout!

  • Can't speak for anyone else's experience but I followed the wiring diagram and I've had no problems 12 months on.


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  • My issue is that my machine doesn't follow any of the wiring diagrams for my model. Live where neutral should be, terminals labelled differently to the diagram, wires coloured differently to both the diagram and UK standards. It's been a lot of fun...

  • Yeah, this was my totally my experience too and definitely the hardest part of the build. Think our units were made on a Friday afternoon after a liquid lunch at the pub.

  • Had grinder upgraditis bad the last few weeks. The Kinu is great but I know I'm not getting the most out of filter and it's a ball ache to dial-in deep on espresso. In the space of 48 hours I went from almost buying a secondhand 078s (£600) to settling on a brand new Ode Gen 2 (£285) as I reckoned all I need is a filter grinder, then a 1zpresso ZP6 (£185), then the Q2 (£80) and ended up actually buying the new 1zpresso Q Air (£50).

    Purple cos technically it's my 3yo's grinder to help daddy make coffee. She says it's much prettier than mine.

    Even without seasoning this morning's Clever Dripper brew is juicier than the Kinu with noticeably less fines and boulders left at the end. I hope it's not just placebo at having a new toy or a one-off. It grinds a little slower and adjustment is the stupid clicks system but to me it basically tastes like a Comandante for 1/5th the price. Feels solid enough that the plastic doesn't put me off and it weighs nothing compared to the Kinu too, perfect travel option. Short handle is really fun to spin too!

    So, yeah, Ive had it for less than 24hours and only made 4 cups but would recommend. It's mad for the price. Comandante experience for 50 quid.


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  • I'd be interested in your thoughts across the different grinders for Clever Dripper brews as I have the same setup of Clever Dripper and Ode Gen 2 and debating getting a hand grinder on the side for fun

  • Does anyone have any good coffee suggestions for Stockholm? Wayne's coffee and Espresso House seem to be everywhere, which I'm assuming is their Cafe Nero and Costa.

  • We purposefully stayed right near Drop Coffee, and didn’t get coffee anywhere else. Would’ve liked to have tried Johan & Nystrom, and something called Cafe Pascal was on my list but can’t remember why.

  • I've never owned anything with flat burrs so couldn't help too much with a direct comparison. YouTube & forums (mainly Lance Hedrick who helped design/select the burrs) would have me believe your Ode Gen 2 is on par with Comandante/1zpresso heptagonal burrs but to get noticeable improvement from a hand grinder you'd need to go to a ZP6 or Pietro. This is how I ended up getting the Q Air, allegedly similar quality grind to the Ode I was eyeing up at a fraction of the price.

    Just finished the now cooled brew from this morning and it's still really tasty. Brews with the Kinu by this point of the day would have lost a lot of flavour and be way more astringent. They're much closer when still warm.

  • Hmmm... Interested. I'm picking up my daughter from the O2 next Thursday. Walkable?

  • I'm there this weekend - on my coffee list are:
    Stora Bageriet
    pascal kaffebar
    drop coffee
    Gast Kafe
    Beck Kaffebar
    Kaffeverket
    Slow Hands Cafe

  • Yeah walkable or a 5 minute bus ride.

  • Cool. Will PM

  • Slow Hands Cafe

    A friend lives a short walk from Slow Hands, it's a great little cafe. Really friendly owners too.

  • Yeah it’s not in the middle of Stockholm so I’ve not made it out there before. Had planned to run there this weekend but errr snow…

  • Been a while since I visited, but here's the list of cafes that featured in my old copy of Drift magazine's Stockholm issue.


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