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I think there's a lot of thinly veiled islamophobia going around. There seems to be quite a few people that view Palestinians are somehow deserving of being bombed in to the dirt because they did something horrible after half a century of living under apartheid.
It's possible to not excuse the response while understanding why it happened and maybe even making the leap of judgement that if you didn't oppress and terrorise 2 million people for 50 years, make it your government's clear objective to wipe them off the face of the earth, talk about them as animals etc etc. then maybe you wouldn't get the reaction.
And while we talk about it 20,000 civilians, half of which children have been murdered in cold blood. There's a literal ongoing genocide happening right now. Men getting rounded up, children shot in their schools, journalists getting tower blocks dropped on them and their whole family while we have people going "yeah but Hamas". Hamas wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Bibi let alone the aforementioned oppression. These people don't deserve this.
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Were Hamas justified in their October attacks?
The 840 IDF soldiers who were killed were valid targets under international law I think. Of course that’ll be disputed by Isreal who doesn’t recognise the occupation.
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To what extent is the religious fundamentalism demonstrated by Hamas a result of their persecution by the jews and to what extent is it a result of the jihadism? Genuinely curious how you see it.
I'll answer your question with one of my own. If Israel had never been created, if the people of Palestine had lived their lives outside of an apartheid system and a religious war brought to their door step, would Hamas exist? Would a Palestinian government be declaring a peaceful neighbour as it's enemy? What if Israel had been created, given some land away from the existing towns and cities and not expanded beyond that. Would religious zealots be calling for their removal? Maybe a few not I'd bet not on the scale we see now. If you believe Islam will inherently create a militant arm calling for jihad then I'm afraid that's islamophobia.
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Difficult to engage with you when the vibe you give off suggests that you think people with a different perspective to yours must be bigoted.
Were Hamas justified in their October attacks? To what extent is the religious fundamentalism demonstrated by Hamas a result of their persecution by the jews and to what extent is it a result of the jihadism? Genuinely curious how you see it.
Not even talking about the grossness of Israel's illegal settlements and typically overzealous retaliations or even zionism here, before you straw man me.