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I'm not conflating the two - my exact point is that you are criticising Israel and don't see that as anti-semitic, but are accusing those who criticise Hamas as islamophobic.
In either case there's a distinction between the race and the organisation doing bad things, in both cases they expressly cite religion as part of their motivation and charter, and in both cases you can look at history for causes as to why they've got their (Israel as a reaction to longstanding persecution of Jews, Hamas as a response to the plight of Arabs in Palestine).
You could say "if you don't think the actions of Israel are a result of a valid fear of persecution following centuries of anti-Semitism but instead as some sort of innate colonialism then I'm afraid you're dancing with anti-Semitism"
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my exact point is that you are criticising Israel and don't see that as anti-semitic, but are accusing those who criticise Hamas as islamophobic
No, I'm saying those that don't believe Hammas exists as a reaction to Israel's oppression are islamophobic.
You could say "if you don't think the actions of Israel are a result of a valid fear of persecution following centuries of anti-Semitism but instead as some sort of innate colonialism then I'm afraid you're dancing with anti-Semitism"
You could say that but you'd be wrong. That premise relies on Judaism = Israel and that Israel cannot exist without Palestine ceasing to exist.
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You could say "if you don't think the actions of Israel are a result of a valid fear of persecution following centuries of anti-Semitism but instead as some sort of innate colonialism then I'm afraid you're dancing with anti-Semitism
To an extent yeah but you're ignoring the whole Zionist cause here.
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you are criticising Israel and don't see that as anti-semitic
You can critised the action of the Israel government and not be anti-Semitic.
The whole premise of the Israel government is to use anti-semitism as a reason for their action.
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edscoble
You're conflating Israel and Judaism. Same questions to you, why does Hamas exist idealogically and practically? Look in to those and you may find your answer. If you don't think Hamas exists as a response to decade of oppression but instead as some sort of innate Islamic radicalism then I'm afraid you're dancing with islamophobia