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"Was Margaret Thatcher a good leader?" Is a topic on Loose Women today. Loose Women is a chat, magazine show aimed at women who are at home during lunchtime weekdays.
What this suggests to me is Keir Starmers big dry political piece in the Sunday Telegraph has achieved cut through, non Political people are talking about Politics. This is GOLDEN, this is what Politicans especially those in Opposition will give their right arm for!
Kier Starmer has achieved this, it feels like a small step towards a Labour government.
Oh and it was one line not really praising Thatcher, more a statement of fact that she sought to change stuff.
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Interesting fact: Loose Women actually started as a satire produced by Chris Morris. Then people took it seriously and it did so well that ITV bought the rights and carried on producing it.
You can still see many of satirical elements in the production today - caricature panel, etc. The passive income from his revenue share is still his primary source of income.
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Well, blimey an HA!
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Is that true?
A quick google revealed nothing, but it sounds so plausible…Are you chris morrissing us?
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Don't spoil the fun!
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So Labour might be keeping quiet for now, and that's a totally valid argument for the next election given the polling data. But if they don't meaningfully change after the election, continuing to abandon these people's basic needs, it's going to be one hell of a ride in the next decade.
(Even looking at some of the polls there are more 'Don't knows' than Conservative votes, although I don't know if that's a normal figure)
have been holding the line for some time that labour is really pushing for a low election turnout, or at least, not one where it might rally a suprise demographic swing/turnout. their messaging is consistently targeted at the stable voter but, maybe more importantly, they've dropped any pretence of usual nice fluff on the social liberalism which is usually more to get people out if it's raining.
i would say a lot of the PLP in power atm felt quite validated in their belief that transformative policy wins votes, not seats, after the 2017/2019 election, that building a "new electoral map" is not something that delivers them victory and holds them with policies and a mandate base they do not feel comfortable around. that any increase in voters for them will be matched by an increase for those on the other side. instead they're targetting red wall, swings and non disenfranchised/ amply represented groups allows them to double down on the disillusionment of conservative/ """economy"""/ sensible/ loose women liberal voters, wining the eye catching swing of seats and material power.
smart politics one could argue, it's looking like the tories will be put in a hard reset, great to see. it does make them beholden to those voters however; to their parties jobs, who, as we bemoan, are not scared of self immolation. i err on the side of what we see is what we get when it comes to their social and economic offerings. which may be good for many currently, especially those in lucrative private sectors that one might use david graebers words to describe. however, it's hard not to see that the platform continues to not adress underlying issues for many more marginalised, public sector or care work focused roles. i would also argue that the platform will also struggle to undo any of the decline of standard of living for many by keeping a lot of the structures causing it (wealth extraction, wealth disparity, vulture capitalism, skepticism of industrial spending and development as infrastructure fails, hesitancy for strateigic government planning for an aging population and the shrinking of asset accessibility to many under 40's) if they stick to their "fiscal rules".
these latter issues, much like you suggest, create a breeding ground for a legitimisation of far right parties to swoop in on populist mandates, or shift the social and economic overton window of more liberal ones. much as we've been living in the fall out from for the last 15 years, much as we see here with labour on imigration and economic policy in 2007, and present day. hard to overlook these factors unless you're ideologically attached to the starmer project past getting the tories out.
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The (possibly) interesting thing is that there isn't a left-wing party coming up to take the votes that some suggest the Labour party aren't catering to.
On the right there's varieties of UKIP, Reform, etc that get a lot of right wing votes. On the left the Greens have slightly increased their vote share, but not massively and given the current environment emphasis you'd expect that anyway, but nothing is showing up to suggest these voters are looking for a home.
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Lots to like in this post, thanks Maj
Also, aside from Thatcher-chat, here's his recent speech which is actually pretty good, despite a sometimes narrow focus when describing how we get out of this mess: https://labourlist.org/2023/12/keir-starmer-full-economy-speech-resolution-foundation-today-policy-spending-public-services/
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Torsten has a piece in the Grauniad today..
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just buy your sister a pub lunch ffs man
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My brother won't let me buy him a pint, let alone lunch. I would assume their family is the same.
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A warm welcome in northern Britain for TNF Keith..
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1732869252061725025?t=_z-RjuAPoZdP9W15VHOnTw&s=19
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Strong sigma male edit vibes..
Be brutally honest about your superficialities and actively contradict yourself between wanting to fit in and trying to be different
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is northern Britain a bit?
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Whatever our political disagreements, can we all make an agreement not to amplify Andy Ngo, the press arm of the right wing terror organisation Patriot Prayer? Here's a better link with more videos: https://twitter.com/AFrazzledScot/status/1732821431975637311
EDIT: While we're on the subject we should probably not refer to Glasgow as 'northern Britain'.
FURTHER EDIT: Chants of 'how many kids have you killed today' at Starmer and 'you're supporting genocide' at Anas Sarwar - https://twitter.com/AFrazzledScot/status/1732834550986813678 - these are not serious people.
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Was on Titchmarsh not Kuenssberg this morning.
I'm not say he should or shouldn't be on Kunessberg;trying to reach out to a different older more conservative & Conservative audience?
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Apologies.. I wasn't aware of how toxic Ngo is. Thanks for updating the link.
Northern Britain is a nat trope.
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just full Tory really. 🫠
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Heaven help the UK if think-tank vampires like Mariana Mazzucato are to be the Tru-Labour economic gurus. The only policy she's actually implemented, the Scottish National Investment Bank, is a wonderful example of Tammany Hall cronyist statist government failure.