Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

Nah mate, no bulkhead in the passenger Berlingos, no restrictions. You're looking up the van ones.

Daihatsu Boon X4?

See what you can get to fit to the cables.

Where you have decided to live is well fucked. If car shit is the barometer.

I looked at Citroën’s site. It looks like only the electric ones are legally cars?

Ah, they have come down a bit then. Bigger bills than a GR Yaris also, I would imagine

My Berlingo was definitely a car according to the V5. No bulkhead at all.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they made a light commercial version and a consumer version - then it's up to the market what they bring in. We only got the LCV here so it's not a vehicle that a member of the public can buy (you have to be a business to own a commercial vehicle here, which restricts the number of pickups on the road to actual gardeners/builders/etc.

It's irrelevant. For all Amey's functional chat he and his family are not going to want to sit in the interior of an old Citroën van after sitting in a Ford or VW mpv.

just had insurance renewal come through from RAC.

last year £600ish
this year £1,600ish

9 years NCB, no claims in last year or at any other time since we've had this car. does that sound like a mistake?

Agreed. Much as I like the Berlingo and it's equivalents (a doblo is the best holiday hire car I've had), they are a bit budget gorpcore.

They should do that here, might stop the wankpanzer and massive utility vehicle lifestyle ownership that’s clogging up the streets

Yeah, I don't really understand the desire for the postman pat experience.

what is bulkhead 😭

here is an MPV question, is there an MPV that is similar shape as a Touran etc but has 5 seats instead of 7?

S-max is nice but weirdly expensive compared to a more recent Tourneo connect. Tourneo is also better in fuel economy.

They should do that here, might stop the wankpanzer and massive utility vehicle lifestyle ownership that’s clogging up the streets

You can get round it here by registering as a company/sole trader, but the government will actually check to see if you are running a business or just trying it on with regards to cheaper vehicle ownership. Plus commercial vehicles are all heavily speed restricted and have occupancy limits that will get you fined if you transgress.

Consider a Honda FR-V? 6 seats!

omg another dream car, there is one I drool over every day on nursery drop; bit too 'bangernomics' in 2023; expensive to run and on tax and really old .. not for a n00b like me

V220 is the obvious choice:

I miss my old one, it's a great car.

ha! way too much for me.

whats the deal with imported Tourans? most around £10k are import .. i think as a n00b i'd want to avoid that, right?

ha! way too much for me.

It would be for maybe the first couple of days, then you'd get used to it and wonder how you ever got your stuff in a smaller vehicle.

looking at this @sacredhart might shoot you a PM with some questions

They are not that good tbh.

Honda reliability but several niggly features; bad handbrake position, middles seats in each row are small, middle seat in the front isn’t actually comfortable and blocks the rear view when reversing, visibility of the car’s corners is really poor and the handling at speed is a bit odd. Strangely it feels smaller inside than it looks from the outside , a reverse tardis. Supposedly changing the clutch is a big pita and because of the weird handbrake position the temptation is to ride the clutch rather than use the handbrake. Expensive to replace cat converter when some cunt steals it too (OE exhaust is very spendy!).

It’s been a reliable car, fine for motorway cruising, but I prefer our roomster, which was bought to lug bikes around as all the rear seats come out, for most journeys.

roomster

i love this too but its basically a fabia van so same width ..