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  • I have issues with the undercut by immigrant labour.

    It's companies undercutting workers. With government permission.

    If there are jobs to fill, people will fill them.

    But then if housing and public services don't keep up it becomes a mess, same shit everywhere.

    Until the government becomes more restrictive and lets industries that can't pay properly fail and funds social care and housing, this "but immigrants" pot is going to keep on the boil.

  • Unfortunately getting into the detail and wider structural issues is way to complicated to discuss, and sets up traps for yourself that the opposition can exploit.

    I'm open to hearing arguments for controlling immigration. Just not basic ones that don't go further to look at the wider structural issues, and fail to acknowledge our whole economic model is built on requiring an immigrant workforce.

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