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• #5702
Oh just find a normal QR disc fork in the same length for 700c (395mm give or take), as long both tyres is big enough to raise enough ground clearance, it just mean you can’t pedals while going through corner quickly.
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• #5703
Disagree with the British way of cabling though, left front frees up the right hand to downshift into a lower gear while slowing down.
As I said, you can do both in one movement pretty nicely with STIs, which might have been the point of the swinging brake lever? But in practice it's not a huge advantage, unless you're racing crits, and even then it's not a big deal I bet... I'd rather be able to shift and (meaningfully) brake with one hand in case I'm using the other at the time - maybe I'm having a drink or a bite, or carrying something home from the shop or maybe something I found on the side of the road.
The one-handed simultaneous brake and downshift is actually possible with Ergo and even Doubletap, although perhaps too fiddly to bother... electronic stuff opens up the possibilities.
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• #5704
I thought the whole UK USA/Euro brake set up was about which side of the road you drive on.
You’re a novice rider, turning right with your right arm out to indicate braking rear brake with left hand, you cross over the painted white line, the rear tyre momentarily slips, big deal. Now swap the brakes around.
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• #5705
I thought the whole UK USA/Euro brake set up was about which side of the road you drive on.
Usually, it’s just a personal preference in the end and make zero difference.
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• #5706
Yup, uk/oz/nz/japan all right hand steering wheels and right hand front brakes on stock bikes.
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• #5707
Understood, ta.
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• #5708
Likewise understood, ta.
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• #5709
make zero difference
I think I pointed out one somewhat significant difference - your front shifter and rear brake are relatively useless; if you've got one hand busy it's good if you can still use the rear shifter and front brake.
The other major difference it makes is that it can be a (potentially dangerous) pain in the arse if you roll the opposite way to everyone else in your country.
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• #5710
I think I pointed out one somewhat significant difference
It make zero difference to the person who have a preference on which side to brake on.
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• #5711
I agree with Ed.
What can be dangerous is to change from what you are used to.
Personally, I've always had my front brake on the left and rear on the right - I think this is preferable, especially for a right handed person, but any advantage of one side or the other is insignificant compared with your conditioned reflex.
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• #5712
brake are death
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• #5713
Interesting, I feel the opposite way for the same reason. I prefer to have my dominant hand on the front brake which requires more precision and power.
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• #5714
I can’t remember why but a few years ago I thought it’d be a good idea to play around with switching brakes around.
I think maybe I had bikes at the time with only a front brake, others with only rear and others with two.
I found that where I only had a single brake, the lever could be in either position with virtually no instances of grabbing for a brake that wasn’t there or confusing a front for a rear etc.
With two brakes fitted however it had to be front right/left rear. I just couldn’t get my head around a front left/right rear when I had both brakes available.
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• #5715
Breaks r death...
I'm ripping the brake lever and calipers off my bike with my bear (grr) hands
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• #5716
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• #5717
Well, each to his own, chaqu'un a son gout!
My take is that the back brake needs more pressure because it's less efficient and the longer cable causes more friction. -
• #5718
When I was young I had a phase of motorcycling. Always British bikes with rear footbrake on the left.
After a gap of 30 years I needed to use a motorbike again. Now the back brake was on the right and although under normal circumstances I would remember this, in an emergency stop I was unreliable and twice went for the wrong side. I believe this was a condtioned reflex which I couldn't get rid of. I know I'm not the only person who has had this problem.
As you can see, I did survive. Nowadays I steer clear of all motorbikes!
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• #5719
My take is that the back brake needs more pressure because it's less efficient and the longer cable causes more friction.
No, the back brake needs less pressure because the maximum before skidding is well under half the maximum front brake pressure before tipping. Use your strong hand for the brake which is actually stopping you.
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• #5720
It’s likely that on some bike the cables aren’t routed well enough or trimmed properly that it does feel harder to modulated than the front.
This is largely mechanical error if the brakes felt noticeably harder to modulate.
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• #5721
Yeah, it took me a few stabs of the rear brake when trying to change gear to get used to it when I got my Matchless.
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• #5722
Didn't some motorbikes have the brake on left lever, to allow for shooting a gun with the right hand.
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• #5723
I think you might be thinking about Indians which had the throttle on the left for (supposedly) this reason?
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• #5724
This article suggests it was a rather less click bait reason of there just not really being any standards and their carb was on the left so the left grip was closer to run the cable to.
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• #5725
Hm, that makes me realise I'll have to switch back after civilisation collapses
In a 376mm fork, you're probably not going to get much more than a 700×25 in.