Hulsroy's Hustle

Thanks <3

I'll go let them out of the basement for hour then.

xmas present hopefully ordered via wife. 🙌

Great stuff!

Really hoping to get these selling loads so I can buy nice machines. Today I've been dreaming about CNC machines...

Today I've been dreaming about CNC machines...

Been there, done that. Even bought the servos and controller board.

Moving the bottle cage request thread from @Oddo thread to here.

I have recently tried bivo bottles. They have have some excellent advantages: stainless so no flavour weirdness, nice to hold, easy to clean and excellent flow. But also some disadvantages: hard to properly close (I keep pouring water on myself) and most critically - they don’t actually sit well in a bottle cage.

It’s probably a bit too niche but the shops that sell them might be curious to be able to recommend a better cage for them.

I'll give it a think, but is it worth making a cage for something that is badly designed (it seems)?

It’s an odd one. It’s almost amazing, it stays in the cage, but loading it is not great. There’s a slightly taper so I don’t think they’d work with your current cage.

Maybe I'll just design my own bottle!

The KEEGO convinces especially by its durability, squeezability and its low weight of only 86g. It is the consistent further development to the cleanest and most sustainable sports bottle ever. The outer shell with recycled plastic provides additional support and allows easy squeezing.

I find this semi offensive. Without data it's worthless. I don't have the actual data either but I suspect mining for the stuff required for titanium alloys and the stuff for the silicone lid is equally harmful to the world as a plastic bottle using petrochemical crap.
Energy consumption creating this bottle must also be greater than the plastic bottle as HDPE or similar softer plastics for beverage melt at around 180-190°c.

And while they claim there is no micro plastic inside your drink, covering the bottle in plastic means creating microplastic as it gets taken in and out of the cages. Also, can the inner layer and the outer layer be easily separated? Or are we just burning the plastic off when the bottle needs to be recycled? The outer plastic and inner ti while react differently to different temperatures. What happens if this composite starts failing?

While specialized bottles are not the greatest solution ever, they do not taste specifically of plastic to me, they can be seperated into different type of plastics easily and they could in fact be recycled into new bottle if the infrastructure allowed for it.

And plastic bottles last a long time in my experience. While they look worn after a season they can keep going and going for years of you clean them and don't drink too much sugary stuff from them.

Keego sounds like green washing marketing bull shit to me. Prove me wrong please!

Again I know nothing specific but my guess is that a lot hinges on the expected lifespan of the product (and the lifespan of whatever baseline product they are comparing to). All my camelback plastic bottles are all between 10-13 years old and they still have many years in them, and since I usually lose bottles before they become unusable I don’t really expect a metal one to last longer.

I hate them since I first saw them.

Gluing plastic and titanium together is like the worst version of tetra Pak imaginable. Imo.

Want squeeze, go plastic.
Want cleanest taste, go stainless.

And agree regarding good quality bidons, if you take a bit of care they are definitely ok for a long time.

Ha.

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(Sorry about this, but you started bringing bullshit products into your thread.)

https://www.cannondale.com/en/blog/no-more-plastic-bottles

Cannondale did this last year which was cool but it's not much use making them compostible in an industrial composter when none of them will make it to an industrial composter

They still break down outside of industrial composting conditions though - just takes a while longer. They do eventually decompost though.

Fair enough, thats decent then. As long as they don't get binned and incinerated before they get the chance

https://drinkbivo.com/

This is what I was referring to you. Easy to clean and won’t fall apart mouthpiece (unlike my now un-usable bottles with shredded lids). Snorkel lets the flow rate be bonkers. But as I said - they don’t sit well in a normal steel cage.

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Maybe keep the snarky comments over in your own cp

I see. They do look like they'd be difficult to accommodate.
And still stainless steel with plastic lid

I’m going to have to buy one (or three) of your cages just to see how they interact…

I think they would work. They'd eat the paint eventually but can't see them slipping out.

I hope you are all buying bottle cages for your loved ones for Xmas!
I am making shit loads in this second batch. Praying for global buying power to return!

In other news:
I am thinking there isn't really a point to making a fourth series of cages. It you are running a clean canteen type bottle I recommend you just bend back the top tap. I've been experimenting with the sideloading cages and over time the cages open up slightly if you pull metal bottles out completely sideways. But if you just pull the bottle up/sideways you can use the cages with a low hanging framebag no problem. I'll make a video of this soon!

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wait wait wait

you're telling me, you can just "adapt" something i already own, seems mad, don't believe you, clearly lies

Oui