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• #85552
Ffs the question is whether anyone knows of a country where farm workers have a decent standard of living. Not discuss the comparative merits of those few outliers which provide farm workers a decent standard of living.
Yes the Incas were an expansionist empire. I don't think Settlers and Kibbutznik are interchangeable. I don't recall that much of North America being paid for. I'd also be curious to see a breakdown of agricultural land in the UK that was paid for rather than inherited.
I'm happy to hear of others, but collective agriculture seems to be the only route, and of those, the only ones I can think of that weren't basically as bad as any feudal or capitalist ones are Kibbutzim and the Incas. I'd be interested to hear of others.
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• #85553
I'd also be curious to see a breakdown of agricultural land in the UK that was paid for rather than inherited.
Inclosure Acts were part of this, no?
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• #85554
Idk much about this so cheers for the prompt to read up 👍
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• #85555
The Book of Trespass by Nick Hayes is a good related read.
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• #85556
@user152427 sorry but no, I’m not convinced…
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• #85557
Some Abu Dhabi investment vehicle set to buy the Telegraph and the Spectator. Seems healthy.
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• #85558
but collective agriculture seems to be the only route
Not a particularly helpful observation but the only one I could think of is the C.17th Diggers (Levellers?) trying and (of course) failing.
There’s also the issue of ‘people’ confusing farmers with landowners (‘you must be minted owning all the acres’ ‘no I’m just the tenant who drives the tractor’) thing around here
Actually all this isn’t relevant at all
Probably belongs in the my-landlord-is-an-arse inaccessible thread
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• #85559
Surely the UK govt has rules against foreign owners for mass media... probably not tho
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• #85560
Surely the UK govt has rules against foreign owners for mass media
Wait till you hear what this Rupert Murdoch guy has been doing!
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• #85561
Only non-white folk.
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• #85562
There’s also the issue of ‘people’ confusing farmers with landowners
This is true. Our land is let out leased to a tenant farmer.
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• #85563
I meant more in terms of sovereign wealth funds... but point taken
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• #85564
I'm wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit of that from the tories kicking off about this. However, I think there is a difference between what is basically a State vs a US private citizen.
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• #85565
Maybe we could use this as a moment to have news paper owners domiciled in the UK.
It would be hilarious if the B Bros then went under after securing the sale due to a tax bill.
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• #85566
B Bros
B Bro now
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• #85567
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• #85568
news paper owners tranquilised in the UK.
Apologies, seem to be reacting to your threads
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• #85569
The surviving B Bro is retired, his nephew is running the business now
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• #85570
Deliveroo drivers cannot be unionised, Supreme Court rules
Riders hired by Deliveroo cannot be represented by a trade union for the purposes of collective bargaining, the Supreme Court has ruled.
Judge Vivien Rose said Deliveroo riders did not have an "employment relationship" with the food courier company and were not entitled to compulsory collective bargaining
Not really commensurate with every else in the world, but not out of place for a Companies first economy.
Looking forward to Starmer's statement that Labour will legislate to strengthen workers' rights, inclusive of gig-economy workers.
Aaaany time now...
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• #85571
I'm pretty sure Murdoch is grey. Maybe with some liver spots.
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• #85572
Judge says it's reasonable to shout 'Tory Scum' at Tory Scum https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/21/protesters-iain-duncan-smith-tory-scum-reasonable-court-rules
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• #85573
Lol came here to post that.
Nice to see it’s still legal to tell the truth, ey.
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• #85574
Just seen this, basically the answer is no there isn't.
I'm not counting the abuse of EU monies to support substance farming such as gorse.
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• #85575
Just to that Tory shit filled hate sack of meat or the whole Tory nation?
We can over look the child sarifice and human sacrifice for the crops to be fruitful/sun to come up/bad year more sacrifice.
Didn't the Incas subjugate lots of other people?