Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

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  • A6 all road 👍🏼

  • Friend has a Skoda scout, but don't know if it's same suspension as Audi. Seems decent enough. I wouldn't want an A6. Maybe a newer Subaru? Do you have to have AWD?

  • AWD is a firm requirement. Newer Subarus just don't seem to have moved on in terms of power or fuel efficiency from my 2006 model...... and they have a CVT gearbox, not sure I can live with that.

  • And newer Subarus have the part time awd systems, coupled with the CVT = crap.

    Coincidentally, this morning I had a browse around a 2023 WRX. The interior was disgusting and so cheap feeling. Would not buy.

  • Yup, that makes sense and agrees with the logic I'd arrived at re getting the warranty. Cheers. Also @hazzelfrazzel - thanks.

  • Subaru interiors have always been like that!

  • I will add my experience. Used Audi a4 avant (75k miles), within a month the AdBlue pump failed £2000+ and an issue with start stop £200+ both covered by warranty. I guess it depends on the car but newer cars can get expensive quickly. My next car will probably be swayed by the longest warranty possible.

    Edit: warranty was through Audi so pretty easy to claim.

  • what is AdBlue?

  • I went to see a 1970 BMW 2002 today, bit too much rust for me- I’d end up having to fix it and that buggers the idea of it being (relative to the market here) a cheap car.

  • Thanks, that's very helpful.
    I'd never head of it before, but tbh I always drive petrol cars rather than diesel.

  • I’d heard of adblue but never knew what it was. Why aren’t we pissing in our diesel cars???

  • Many people are - why aren't you?

  • Fair, I've not looked at newer ones beyond from outside. The 11L/100km on mine is annoying, but it's a cockroach and that's worth a lot.

    Xc70?
    Look at the scout though, it was nice inside.

  • There's a big hole in the fuel filler for diesel, a wee hole in the filler for petrol. Very small holes in an EV charge port.

  • I don’t diesel

  • Its business isn't it. Used car dealers need to buy at price X, add value (which is often just clean it, throw some paint sealant on it to make it look shiny, and throw away any service history), sell for X + Y. Where Y is a % profit to make it worth their while going to work in the morning.

    Not all used car dealer cars are bad. Not all private sales are legit or good.

    Every car over a day old potentially has issues. Operate on the principle that any used car you buy may well cost you £500-1500 within the first days to 6 months just in wear items and things that crop up that you won't have noticed on the 0.5 mile 30mph test drive around the block.

    The absolute best advise is to find a mate or colleague who is an expert in that particular car your looking at, pay them in wine, beer, mince pies for their time to help you look at a few cars you've short listed.
    Do not buy the first car of any type that you see, look at and drive multiple, then even the most non car person ever will be like 'oh that one stank like fermented arse, the other one pulled to the right, the brakes on the third one were dreadful and it make a noise'....

    Most non car, non technical, non 'maybe I can fix this myself' type of folk just pay and buy new one way or another. Every mate or colleague that would fit into those categories is always rolling around in a new leased leon, golf, I30, corolla, mazda 3 type of car, because they just want simplicity.

    Suzuki swift gets my approval. Genuinely fun to drive, excellent driving position for me (5'10, medium medium medium), engines good, the mild hybrid turbo petrol is a legend, reliable, good economy and quick enough to keep most people happy. Cheap because yeah no one is looking for them. They can rust a bit, but you'll be looking at one less than 10 years old I guess so not really a problem (all cars rust eventually in this country). Boot is small and rear seats are small ish. But if its a hatchback you want, yeah they good.

    Jazz is the most best small hatchback in terms of usefulness, nothing else comes close.

  • Compression too low in order to diesel?

  • Suzuki swift gets my approval

    Which version pls?

  • 2016 shape on. swift or swift sport, 1.2 or 1.3 mild hybrid would be what I'd get if I needed a small car again (thats not a jazz). Built in Japan for Uk market so should be put together OK, albiet remember this is a budget car, so don't expect alacantara trimmed anything.

  • Hmm. The OG Brick.

    Y are the door pillars drunk?


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