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They could stop the boats tomorrow, by creating safe routes for people seeking asylum to enter the country.

There is an argument that that wouldn't work as 'loads of people are economic migrants and not refugees so the safe route wouldn't be available to them and they would still pay smugglers'.

What they could do is resource the processing of claims properly so people not eligible could be sent home quickly but they don't seem to want to do that for some reason. Maybe because they don't want to admit that the vast majority are genuine refugees and having them in limbo suits the stats?

Sounds like a job for AI.

Oh yes, there are certainly possible solutions but they're not ones that will go down well with Farage so the Tories are scared of actually trying them.

What they could do is resource the processing of claims properly.. Maybe because they don't want to admit that the vast majority are genuine refugees and having them in limbo suits the stats

I'm sure you're right that there's mileage to be made in Othering the refugees. I imagine also that it'd be very expensive and they'd be wary of being seen to spend lots of money on this while people are still having to otherwise deal with potholes and diminishing local services etc.

I imagine also that it'd be very expensive and they'd be wary of being seen to spend lots of money on this while people are still having to otherwise deal with potholes and diminishing local services etc.

In the big scheme of things it's cheaper than putting them up in hotels.

I saw a suggestion that part of the reason for keeping the backlog so high was to keep the costs high which means that really expensive remediation stuff like flying people to Rwanda can be justified as cost-efficient.

Maybe some of the £140m we've given to Rwanda could have been used.

It is we will change the laws, and ignore the European court of human rights that worries me.

So mates get fat.

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Please fuck off.

Same nonsense everywhere, jobs needing filled, ageing population but also low wages and housing shortages.

Wages not keeping up with economic productivity, lots of jobs that are so so, lack of ways to upskill for many people...

No issues that have fast and easy fixes, so why not bully refugees and divide and conquer while immigration is going to stay high anyway?

Please fuck off.

+1

I have them on ignore. I assume they've used an apostrophe incorrectly?

Stick that racism up your cunt and fuck off while you’re doing it

You are actually entirely correct - but the word they have used it in is a racist slur.

Does anyone know of a country where farm workers have a decent standard of living?

Food is rather important, but in the UK and US we all collude in exploiting migrants to produce it. If we try to do the work ourselves we usually quit because it's so tough.

+1 to the fuck off, in that case. @user152427 - fuck off with that shit.

Maybe in a workers co-op?

Maybe. Perhaps in a country where land values are not out of reach of anyone who isn't rich.

Israel?

Does anyone know of a country where farm workers have a decent standard of living?

No. I think the closest you'd get is a setup like the Incas where people worked collectively on rotation. So yeah I think Israel is a solid guess.

European culture is founded on exploitation of peasants, so that's going to feed through any European derived cultures.

No, it isn't. If fact they were caught using child slave labour by NGOs and the UN. Even the US mention the problem.

So you are mentioning another reason to avoid Israeli produce infact. As Israel handily have no servitude rules so....

There was supposed to be an unstated '...for some', but I guess it's worse than I thought.

Maybe best not to use Israel as an example, given that settlers are known for paying nothing at all for land.

I think (not sure) a better comparison is a few avocado producers. Very few. But I think the co op is there to pay for the armed guards protecting the crop, not helping farm the crop.

There is a cost of the army, bullets tanks, and bull dozers.