Ok - just wasted an hour reading around this while trying to do real work
I get where you're coming from. However I read your line of reasoning as
"they were making it up on the fly, therefore it was ideological; as its a neo-lib concept, then new Labour are (in this respect) neo liberals"
But the first part of this is incorrect as its fairly well documented that it was a multi-year plan-in-secret by Blair and Brown to get inflation under control.
I think in order to label them neo-liberal or not (in this narrow regard), you'd need to understand _why _ they thought it would work. If it was a case that they'd read they theory and subscribed to it, then yes, neo-lib. However if was a more practical stance that the fed and others were independant and these economies were doing better than the UK, then I would find it less convincing.
I guess its the wider problem of, at what point do you label someone based on their actions. When the Tories take a train company back under national control or spend gazillions on social support during a pandemic most people wouldnt label them socialists (although, some do).
Actually - just browsing the thread, ReekBlefs made this point about China and trade
So, I'll give you "New Labour did something that has support from neo-liberals, and it generally worked at the time", but I'm not convinced with "New Labour were neo-liberals, or had neo-liberal tendencies"
Ok - just wasted an hour reading around this while trying to do real work
Ha, the amount of work procrastination I’ve done on this thread today is ridiculous! I’m gonna tap out of this conversation for today, so if the thread hasn’t moved on tomorrow I’ll post a response 🙂
Ok - just wasted an hour reading around this while trying to do real work
I get where you're coming from. However I read your line of reasoning as
"they were making it up on the fly, therefore it was ideological; as its a neo-lib concept, then new Labour are (in this respect) neo liberals"
But the first part of this is incorrect as its fairly well documented that it was a multi-year plan-in-secret by Blair and Brown to get inflation under control.
I think in order to label them neo-liberal or not (in this narrow regard), you'd need to understand _why _ they thought it would work. If it was a case that they'd read they theory and subscribed to it, then yes, neo-lib. However if was a more practical stance that the fed and others were independant and these economies were doing better than the UK, then I would find it less convincing.
I guess its the wider problem of, at what point do you label someone based on their actions. When the Tories take a train company back under national control or spend gazillions on social support during a pandemic most people wouldnt label them socialists (although, some do).
Actually - just browsing the thread, ReekBlefs made this point about China and trade
So, I'll give you "New Labour did something that has support from neo-liberals, and it generally worked at the time", but I'm not convinced with "New Labour were neo-liberals, or had neo-liberal tendencies"