I was thinking real roads, not that mythical smooth tarmac you see in the adverts. They are as bad as the traffic free roads they find for car advertising.
All very true but the tribulations upthread were to do with skinny high pressures and tubeless. Your fatties are more akin to gravel and MTB tyres for which consensus is firm that it's more worth while
This is not quite what everyone means when they're talking about road tubeless