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  • Explain to me what you perceive my prejudices to be?

    An airstrike on a densely populated refugee camp is diabolical, and shouldn't happen, 100%.
    Everyone has condemned it as they should.

    The morally challenging bit for me is when Hamas denies that they are there, and condemns (quite rightly) the bombing of civilians and refugees. Then says basically 'oh by the way, you managed to kill 7 of your hostages too'. What are the hostages doing there, and how did you procure them in the first place? I felt that this was a throwaway news point, when perhaps it shouldn't be.

    What should be done? Whats being done by Israel now is terrible and awful. Not doing anything isn't really an option either. Withdrawing from Gaza, West Bank, freeing all Palestinian prisoners would be great. That would be considered as defeat by Israel and victory by Hamas. Potentially emboldening Hamas and other hostile players for further action.

    A military operation to rescue hostages held within a refugee camp would also be widely condemned, with potentially greater loss of life to both miltary, civilians and hostages.
    What is the exchange rate of military lives lost to save civilian hostage lives? It is typically quite high, but soldiers on both sides have parents, grandparents, husbands, wives, children too.

  • If you're having a moral quandry over blowing up dozens maybe hundreds of Palestinians in a refugee camp with bombs twice in 2 days under the thin guise of maybe killing a single Hamas commander, which Hamas haven't even confirmed, then yes I think there's some prejudice going on.

    Minimising collateral damage and trying to not main civilians is a basic tenant of modern war and the Geneva Convention, so however they want to do it, boots on the ground, negotiation, smoking out the tunnels they seem to know so well, literally any option is better than just exploding the whole area.

    At least that's what a military that wasn't in the act of genocide would do. But for Israel removing some more live Palestinians is in their interest.

    I don't think you've realised yet that yes Hamas is real and did a terrible thing, but now just as in years gone by Israel is using them as an excuse to kill civilians and as long people blindly believe the terrorist was definitely hiding under that hospital therefore it's justified to bomb it, they'll keep getting away with it.

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