Motorcycle and Scooter appreciation

Remember, unlike a bike you don't accelerate into junctions.

Is it just me thinking wtaf? ;)

If you know you know.

I've been trying to figure out what I dont know

I wouldn't recommend accelerating into junctions, but hey what do I know.

Okay seems like the joke didn’t go down well.

As a rule, a motorcycle needs to maintain balance through momentum. That means whether you are conscious of the habit or not, you approach most junctions with the aim not to stop.

As in, you want to keep going and not put a foot down. You anticipate and look for the gap and keep moving without ever actually stopping, whenever possible.

Most bikers will approach a junction a lot faster than a car, and rely on braking later if necessary.

With a tongue firmly in one’s cheek, to a car driver that looks like a bike is accelerating into the junction.

Oh something I can answer, I learned last year in a manual. I passed with 1 minor for not overtaking a slow lorry on a short dual carriageway (definitely not bitter on that) ... Anyway, the biggest obstacle people have is confidence on the road. As I had been riding my bike and I'm 30 roundabouts and tricky junctions did not bother me and hitting speed limits was a breeze.

The first two lessons I just stalled the car a bunch but every lesson I forgot about the gears more and more. Honestly the gears are the least difficult part, it's being confident and you have that advantage.

I currently drive an auto and we also have an old golf which I haven't been arsed to sell and it's manual, I never have to think about the gears at all when I drive it to the recycling centre once a month.

Manual licence for me as I love older cars and autos on holiday are still expensive...

Edit. Pass your theory and book a test slot, you can then use an app to auto book a sooner slot, I was able to get a test within a month that way.

I've been thinking about this...firstly am trying to understand as with different bikes I do different things.

Also I is old fam and passed tests more than a decade ago. So things change, as nower days engine braking is frowned upon.

The idea of when coming to a give way junction is to proceed if you can so you need to arrive at the junction in the correct gear and revs to negotiate the junction safely. So you can proceed or stop.

Tho I do look back and think that with two strokes or small engined bikes such as in line 4 250, there is little engine braking and they sound like they are at max speed as they have no power at low revs.

Oh @DethBeard good luck with getting a test as getting a test date is difficult.

The idea of when coming to a give way junction is to proceed if you can so you need to arrive at the junction in the correct gear and revs to negotiate the junction safely. So you can proceed or stop.

I think you may have it here, in a manual car I used to roll up in a higher gear using clutch and brake, changing to the gear I will need to go if it’s clear. On a bike I ride up changing down but staying on the engine, yes engine braking but ready to go at the flick of the wrist. With an auto car that’s all gone because I’m always in the right gear, maybe it’s time for a DCT bike.

New fangled technology...
Never catch on.

As a moped (the one with pedals) rider before I ever drove a car I think the likely hood is I don't think like just a car driver.

Oh and you haven't lived (or been fucking terrified) till you have ridden a Honda 400cc hondamatic that is unlike any motorbike ever or since

It’s a poor choice of words on my part, but there are fundamental differences that you learn between the two. Bike instructors have to teach car drivers how to ride… and car instructors have to teach bikers how to slow down.

I remember on a bike lesson the instructor saying "fucking give it some, you're not driving a car"

Totally understand this and agree. It's a lot like cycling in the city.

If anyone wants to see what crashing at 120mph looks like whilst wearing a pair of nikes and some jeans. https://youtu.be/MtN46wLGGMk?si=kjw2czSeRa72Vq6V&t=657

Brutal skin rash!

If that's what crashing at 120 looks like I'll take it. Super lucky.

Not gonna watch. Even previews on insta have shown me some neck-breaks I didn’t want to see before I could swipe off.

As @MrBaklava mentions it surprisingly ends well... my favourite part is when the EMT asks what speed she was going.

11m50 before the crash, gets up and walks about saying "ow" a lot
Stopped watching because fag break over

My mate is selling his 2014 BMW S1000rr

Can get more details if anyone is interested.

Anyone want to buy a well sorted crf450l? MOT passed yesterday, will be freshly serviced and comes packed with all the goodies you need to uncork these misunderstood and capable creatures. Gutted, but need the cash.

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Ughhhhh don’t. I’d love it but can’t find dollar.

I don't want to, but being made redundant so just trying to be pragmatic.

Sad days but sell it and take care of what you need to take care of. I was made redundant at start of year, it takes A LOT fucking longer than I expected to get my on my feet. I’m still clawing back financially. Easier to buy again than sleep anxious.

Damn. Do what you need to do mate. Hope you get top whack for it.

@chak @pdlouche cheers lads. Truth is I was half considering it and this made up my mind. Like you say, good to be prepared and hopefully I won't need to eat into the proceeds.