Which Tyres?

Do we have a consensus on a tubeless 30-32mm road tyre that doesn't cost £££ and is ok for winter usage?

Almost got those cinturato velo's discussed above but couldn't bring myself to spend that amount.

Is road tubeless a fools errand? Would I be better getting decent clinchers that dont require summoning the power of grayskull to remove them from the rims when out on the road?

Is road tubeless a fools errand?

It might be fine if you weigh 50kg and run your tyres at gravel pressures but high pressures and sealant for me = nah bro, gimme a tube and a quick patch kit.

Has also been my experience witnessing sealant piss everywhere when out on club rides, failing to seal, inevitable phone partner for rescue.

Went with gp5000 clinchers in 32 as they are reasonably priced at sigma. Plz dont tell me they are shite

They're fast. They're not what I'd use for winter though.

But then I'll have tyres and a reasonqble excuse to build a nice modern summer road bike around. Buyer logic

I just stockpile all types of tyres so when I decide I 'need' a new bike for 'x', I probably already have the tyres to suit.

£££ tho...

I'm ordering 5 or so of the OEM gravelkings to a friend in Europe that'll ship it over as a goft, hopefully we get away with it.

I'm a big road tubeless fan. I'm just under 70kg and usually run high 50s psi in 28s or low 50s for 30c.

In a couple of years solid use, I've only had 1 puncture which neither the sealant nor a dynaplug fixed at least well enough to get me home*. I've also got home a few times and found tell-tale spots of sealant where the tech has done its job and I've not noticed while riding. I've also enjoyed what seems to me a better ride quality. Overall for me they're just better. A touch more hassle on the initial setup, and a slightly greater chance of a flat you just can't fix, but the positives outweigh those things IMO.

The keys IMO are to run lower pressures (I find the AXS tyre calculator pretty good, and you don't need to go any higher), decent sealant (which you need to keep topped up) and carry a dynaplug.

*getting the tyre off and a tube in was an absolute bastard but it did happen (eventually)

Was gonna ask why people don't just carry a tube to chuck in in a worst case but I guess this answers it. Is it that the bead is so set into the rim it's hard to get off?

Nah, you should be able to chuck a tube in without any bother. It’s just more faff as first you have to get the valve off, which is likely done up very tight to keep it airtight, then you’ve got lots of messy sealant to contend with as you get a tube in.

Riding big tyres at stupid low pressures defeat the purpose of having a fast road bike. I had way too much drama with road tubeless, and clinchers are cheaper and easier to install.

Some tyre/rim combos are much worse than others. The old GP5000 were notoriously impossible.

28s are pretty much ubiquitous in the pro peleton now, and given many of these guys weigh >65kg, most will be running under 60 psi. You get rattled around less, so it might feel slower, but it's actually quicker on anything but perfect tarmac.

I can't argue against the idea that clinchers are cheaper and easier to install, but IME you get fewer punctures with tubeless, and the extra time taken to set them up is more than paid back over the life of the tyre. To each their own, ymmv, etc.

Yeah I know the press note, but not my experience.

+1 for road tubeless. I'm 82kg but run as big a tyre as I can fit, currently 34s on road bike at 58R/55F.

Anyone used continental terra trails? I'm looking at 700x45

Schwalbe Mondial with 17.5k km on it vs a new one. The sidewalls were getting a bit lumpy but I think it would have been ok for a few thousand more km.

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madness!

There’s some terreno zeros in the right size going in the classifieds if you want to take a cheap chance? They look like the other side of the slick for gravel vs light knobs line

I have some brand new, pretty nice carbon tubulars I've never used, so decided I would use them on my weenie Klein.

I've come to tape some 25c Vittoria Rally and the base tape (ribbon?) is too wide for the rim. Apart from looking like shit, is it a daft idea to ride like this? I'm thinking more chance for dirt etc to get between the rim and the tyre.

I assume a 23c tub would have a narrower ribbon? I've never had this issue before.

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Another hands up for road tuneless.

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You've maybe answered my question..

Have a lovely 650b wheelset not being used that has some worn knobbly tyres on.

Anyone riding mostly road or London commuting on 650x47c tyres? Watching some WTB Horizons on eBay..but open to recommendations.

This is not quite what everyone means when they're talking about road tubeless

They are absolute dog shit for anything other than road/broken road/crush/towpath, Just don’t go with the light supple one if you ride the last 2 the most. On real roads they are great, not the fastest, but they don’t wear out and aren’t mega draggy.

I was thinking real roads, not that mythical smooth tarmac you see in the adverts. They are as bad as the traffic free roads they find for car advertising.