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  • You’re right, I’m just a simple user, trying to make sense of a horrible complex (or complicated? I didn’t see how the forum ruled on this) situation.

    Trying to understand things from both sides, which I think means I’m put on the other side?

  • You're still treating this as some equally 2 sided war, it's not and it never has been. One side has people who literally can't even drill a well without the permission from the others army, can't walk on certain streets, have to pass through checkpoints to get to school or temple, can be detained or killed for no reason at any time with no repercussions, and the other has a $23bn a year army keeping them under the thumb. Maybe when Gaza has been completely raized you'll realise

    Even buying the "they had that land originally" bullshit, for one it's trying to excuse literal genocide and it's a flimsy claim anyway. There was a Jewish settlement in 1000bc, there was others before and after it in the same place, by the same logic current day Egyptians or Iraqis have a better claim to it.

  • You're still treating this as some equally 2 sided war, it's not and it never has been.

    They're not, they're just holding more than one view in their head at once and thinking about them out loud without agreeing or condoning them.

  • and the other has a $23bn a year army keeping them under the thumb.

    Not to mention that Foreign Military Funding (FMF) from the US requires the recipient to spend the money on US-manufactured weapons (Israel has some leeway on this apparently). And not to mention the expensive "toys" Israel gets to try out, e.g. the first success of the PATRIOT system in the field was by Israeli Air Defence Command. Israel is just another sandbox in which powerful western stakeholders can subsidise and test weapon systems. Truly revolting practice.

  • there was others before and after it in the same place

    For real. I’m finding the ‘homeland’ argument more asinine every time someone repeats it. The “original” Jewish people weren’t the only tribe in their neighbourhood, let alone all of modern day Israel.

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