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  • Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell speak to Yuval Noah Harrari

    He goes from personal to a very broad perspective. Big ideas.

    The idea that people can be both victims and perpertraters.

    The idea that people directly in the middle of the conflict have no emotional space for empathy, so people less involved have responsibility to empathise with both sides, rather than immediately jump to one or other side.

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