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When you say the Ventos don't use normal hubs and spokes though, what do you mean?
They're straight pull, and the special bladed spokes have a larger cross sectional area than ordinary round spokes.
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I rebuilt a pair of WH-540s (16h f&r) with CX-Rays, duplicating stock tension by doing it one spoke at a time, no problem. Only thing was a surprising amount of stretch, around 3mm. They had like half the cross-section of the stock spokes...
Also, 16h @ 650C is gonna be way stronger than 16h @ 700C.
Kimmo
I'm happy for 650c to be the hill that I die on, just hopefully not from a broken spoke on the way down...
When you say the Ventos don't use normal hubs and spokes though, what do you mean?