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Well there we disagree, Israeli soldiers in body armour and armoured vehicles shoot people that throw stones at them. Shoot unarmed people with cameras. These are in areas that Israel have invaded.
Using armed and armoured soldiers and vehicles to protect bulldozers demolishing people's homes...in areas the people have every right to be.
lynx-
Israeli soldiers in body armour and armoured vehicles shoot people that throw stones at them. Shoot unarmed people with cameras. These are in areas that Israel have invaded.
Yes these horrendous acts by some IDF soldiers happened. Some have been charged by the military courts, disciplined, imprisoned etc.
The point is that whatever has happened in the past, the initial Hammas attack on Saturday left Israel no choice but to resort to the current strikes on Gaza
skydancer
This from Ian Dunt (of the Origin Stories podcast on Zionism) is spot on.
https://liveapp.inews.co.uk/2023/10/12/even-in-the-darkness-we-cannot-give-up-on-the-hope-of-peace-for-israel-and-gaza/content.html
'It’s not useful to wave this complexity away by saying “both sides” are responsible for violence. The actions of the Israeli government – even Netanyahu’s abysmal administration – are not equivalent to Hamas. The strikes are a response to an original attack. They seek to dismantle a terror group, no matter how crudely. That is different to Hamas, whose founding charter encourages genocide, but that does not necessarily make them moral or sensible. The government is bombing a confined area without an established safe passage route into Egypt or the West Bank. Power and water have been cut off. Whichever way you cut it, that is a mass punishmen'