• @Bossman It's effectively the same category of membrane (ultra thin, hydrophillic, PFAS-free, PU membrane), so like-for-like, yes would be the same ...I could find some stats, but they are largely 20/20 in this category. The Pertex does have has a a very subtle micro-ripstop texture, which I like

    Grasping the nettle, I think we (the industry) needs a proper, honest reset on waterproof/water-resistant technology, and customer expectation in post-PFAS era. The difference in DWR performance means the face fabric wets out far quicker than C6 (C8 when I first started!) DWR's, which in turn means hydrophillic membranes can't function nearly as effectively. Proper washing/reproofing, and effective layering under a rainshell can make a big difference to comfort, especially over long periods ....I might write a bit more on this in the Ethical/Eco thread when I have a sec. Love to hear peoples thoughts on this (if you've got older tech, keep it running, wash/reproof, don't rush out and buy a new eco jacket to save the world).

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