Albion, nice and a reasonable amount of pocket locations

The musettes are great, go for it

Yes i would. But they’re not available atm.

Available at Condor.

@nogk yes, restock coming, but not 'til end-of-month/Nov though I'm afraid. Got a really nice new lichen/moss grey green (both mens & womens), the blue/orange lining (mens + womens) and the orange only in mens fit.

Musettes, there are still the Zoa Burner Musettes, but did you want an Ultralight/Lightweight version? Someone else was asking on here

The black Ultralight backpacks are a slightly different design to the LFGSS olive ones. The ones on site have a box pleat base, like a flatpack box, whereas the LFGSS design was a 3D wedge form. Not much difference in volume, black one folds neater, green prob looks better when full.

@Johnnyw75 If you want a jacket to ride in, the All Road would be best bet; light, pocket-stowable, bit of stretch, cut for drop-bars. The membrane is Pertex Shield, a monolithic PU hydrophillic layer; this works best if you have a high differential between inside/outside (ie generating heat on the bike, cooler exterior, lots of airflow
If you want an all-round jacket, to ride different types of bike, and use for hiking, off-bike, camp etc, then the Zoa Rainshell is amazing. Fitted hood, great cover, pockets, cut to layer over insulation if needed. The membrane is Pertex Shield Air a nanospun hydrophobic layer. Highly waterproof and breathable, it's the top performing Pertex technology. Restock coming in Nov - but if you're in SE London, feel free to drop in and look at both jackets in SE8

Perfect, thanks for that @Chopsicle I'm looking for a jacket to ride in, so I think the All Road might be the better fit for me... shame I'm not closer, I'd drop in otherwise. Is the Rainshell much bigger than the All Road, could I size down for a more fitted feel?

The All Road sizing is similar to Rapha; I'm a Medium rainjacket in both Pro Team and Albion All Road, if that's helpful.
And although it is less athletic/active fit,and I'm definitely on the large side of medium, I'm also a Medium in the Zoa Rainshell too, but a small would be too snug and short through the shoulders. Depending on your body type it might be possible to size down. I could layup two jackets for you eith measurements if helpful? Anyone else with experience/advice?

I'm a Medium in the Zoa Insulated which is a perfect fit, but I doubt I'm going to be layering up with this underneath, more like a long sleeve jersey and a base layer. I get what you're saying about sizing down, arms etc might be too short as I am a bit gangly!

Thanks good to know I don't need another lightweight bag.
Regarding the rain jackets, is the pertex material in the all road better than the previous rain jacket material, was it the rain jacket V2?

Thank you.interesting to see the new gray/green

Yes, i was thinking of the light ones. I still have the burner from the first lfgss-batch :-)

@Bossman It's effectively the same category of membrane (ultra thin, hydrophillic, PFAS-free, PU membrane), so like-for-like, yes would be the same ...I could find some stats, but they are largely 20/20 in this category. The Pertex does have has a a very subtle micro-ripstop texture, which I like

Grasping the nettle, I think we (the industry) needs a proper, honest reset on waterproof/water-resistant technology, and customer expectation in post-PFAS era. The difference in DWR performance means the face fabric wets out far quicker than C6 (C8 when I first started!) DWR's, which in turn means hydrophillic membranes can't function nearly as effectively. Proper washing/reproofing, and effective layering under a rainshell can make a big difference to comfort, especially over long periods ....I might write a bit more on this in the Ethical/Eco thread when I have a sec. Love to hear peoples thoughts on this (if you've got older tech, keep it running, wash/reproof, don't rush out and buy a new eco jacket to save the world).

I'll check I can post some pics ...forgot to say we also have Trail Hunter Caps coming, now in same factory as the Zoa Jackets. Following the Arcteryx strategy to use studio > small microfactory run to wear-test > establish the product, and get into bigger factory (volume/better price ) for wider market.

And I try not to spam here, but those asking after Autumn Winter, first product just launching this morning; All Road Midlayer

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you know whats shit about Arcteryx though, for repair you have to send stuff to Switzerland which then gets sent to Canada

I was just suggesting this morning a reciprocal repair arrangement between different companies in different locations to overcome this!

Rab is amazing! I had my xenon hoodie repaired 3rd time last year, bought in 2013.

^ also the reason I havent bought zoa lol

if you've got older tech, keep it running, wash/reproof, don't rush out and buy a new eco jacket to save the world

You're a terrible salesperson.

^ also the reason I havent bought zoa lol

Good! Repairing quality kit is the most sound thing we can do for the environment.

if you've got older tech, keep it running, wash/reproof, don't rush
out and buy a new eco jacket to save the world

You're a terrible salesperson.

Yep!

Repairing quality kit is the most sound thing we can do for the environment.

I sent you a PM about this! Please rescue me from my idiotic quandary.

Looks very nice! Good to see these announcements for those of us not on socials.

you know whats shit about Arcteryx though, for repair you have to send stuff to Switzerland which then gets sent to Canada

Partner just sent a jacket that needs retaping to a 3rd party in Scotland.. seems they now do repairs in the UK

Would definitely be keen to read that

Would love some more lifecycle instructions from Albion for each bit of kit. e.g. what reproofer is best, how frequently? What about for folks without a tumble dryer? Should I avoid wearing a backpack? All those questions.

Stick it on a QR code in the label?

love the new top will be on the list. one question i had @Chopsicle is there any change this year you will be release a gillet but in more zoa style fit? I know you had/have the road one but I would love something less fitted.

cheers!