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  • See I can't help myself.

    The film was based on a book which in itself may have blurred the lines between fiction and fact. Therefore no really a valid comment.

    The whole Jewish thing has been going on for millennia. Am mixed full of cafiene and Duval. So my memory isn't great but one of the English kings (not sure how it worked with kings of England Wales and Scotland) borrowed money from the Jewish lenders could not pay the money back so killed/forced them to leave the country. Don't see how you can gently ask people to leave unless the choice is you do or your dead. Then the pogroms in the area of sort of modern day Russia USSR.

    I wish to talk more, to learn from others as I know so little. But I want a definitive black and white answer when all there are are shades of grey.

    Think that is why I love Bill Hicks...

    Sorry if I'm ranting. Feel like I have a privilege that those in Ukraine, Russia, Palestine and Israel do not have. Feels a little lost on me.

  • The whole Jewish thing has been going on for millennia.

    Just under two. Almost exclusively in Christian countries, for almost all of that time (relatively speaking). Alt-right/neo-nazi types like to say "Jews have been hated everywhere they went" but in fact it was usually just us doing that. Then we kicked everybody else's castles down and (partly due to meddling that the UK was hugely, if ineptly, involved in) global antisemitism was one of the things that emerged as they recovered. There's a savage irony in the way that many post-colonial societies, as they have reconstructed themselves after our departure, hung on to some of the worst things we could have left behind.

  • Think you're being harsh on cricket here, tbf.

  • Alt-right/neo-nazi types like to say "Jews have been hated everywhere they went"

    People also forget how assimilated the vast majority of the German Jewish population was. Films and media tend to portray Orthodox people as it has better visual effects, but most of those were East European survivors of the pogroms. The juxtaposition between the levels of integration and what happened from 1930 onwards is what shifted ziomism from being viewed as a fringe group to being viewed as a means of survival.

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