• Imo the dudes a prick. And over rated.

    But whatever hoops you want to jump through to mitigate his role, the fact is he has shifted the landscape with Tesla and Space X

    Toyota made the prius in what the late 90s? And for a long time that hybrid solution was the closest to commercially available EVs we'd got.

    I've met loads of people with cool ideas and no money. I've also helped people with cool ideas get money and then totally fuck it up. I've also tried and failed to get money from public and quazi public bodies - not the US Government admittedly, but I'm going to wildly speculate and say they're not that easy either.

    Clearly I don't claim to know everyone's personal experiences with building successful multinationals, but a lot of commentators seem to downplay how difficult it is to do what he's done.

  • But whatever hoops you want to jump through to mitigate his role, the fact is he has shifted the landscape with Tesla and Space X

    Right - it's difficult to assess what he did with those two given who he's become. I believe in both cases he heavily invested his own money (which he didn't need to ever spend, he could have happily lived on a beach for the rest of his life) to the point of almost being ruined. Space X in particular was one more failed launch off being finished at one point - and that would have been the end of him as well.

    I think they're both important companies that wouldn't have moved so quickly without whatever it was he injected. Shame (for him, I guess? personally I'm not too bothered) he seems set on ruining his own legacy so completely and so quickly.

  • Space X in particular was one more failed launch off being finished at one point - and that would have been the end of him as well.

    Billionaires do what billionaires does best; keep pouring money until it stick.

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