• @nogk yes, restock coming, but not 'til end-of-month/Nov though I'm afraid. Got a really nice new lichen/moss grey green (both mens & womens), the blue/orange lining (mens + womens) and the orange only in mens fit.

    Musettes, there are still the Zoa Burner Musettes, but did you want an Ultralight/Lightweight version? Someone else was asking on here

    The black Ultralight backpacks are a slightly different design to the LFGSS olive ones. The ones on site have a box pleat base, like a flatpack box, whereas the LFGSS design was a 3D wedge form. Not much difference in volume, black one folds neater, green prob looks better when full.

    @Johnnyw75 If you want a jacket to ride in, the All Road would be best bet; light, pocket-stowable, bit of stretch, cut for drop-bars. The membrane is Pertex Shield, a monolithic PU hydrophillic layer; this works best if you have a high differential between inside/outside (ie generating heat on the bike, cooler exterior, lots of airflow
    If you want an all-round jacket, to ride different types of bike, and use for hiking, off-bike, camp etc, then the Zoa Rainshell is amazing. Fitted hood, great cover, pockets, cut to layer over insulation if needed. The membrane is Pertex Shield Air a nanospun hydrophobic layer. Highly waterproof and breathable, it's the top performing Pertex technology. Restock coming in Nov - but if you're in SE London, feel free to drop in and look at both jackets in SE8

  • Thanks good to know I don't need another lightweight bag.
    Regarding the rain jackets, is the pertex material in the all road better than the previous rain jacket material, was it the rain jacket V2?

  • @Bossman It's effectively the same category of membrane (ultra thin, hydrophillic, PFAS-free, PU membrane), so like-for-like, yes would be the same ...I could find some stats, but they are largely 20/20 in this category. The Pertex does have has a a very subtle micro-ripstop texture, which I like

    Grasping the nettle, I think we (the industry) needs a proper, honest reset on waterproof/water-resistant technology, and customer expectation in post-PFAS era. The difference in DWR performance means the face fabric wets out far quicker than C6 (C8 when I first started!) DWR's, which in turn means hydrophillic membranes can't function nearly as effectively. Proper washing/reproofing, and effective layering under a rainshell can make a big difference to comfort, especially over long periods ....I might write a bit more on this in the Ethical/Eco thread when I have a sec. Love to hear peoples thoughts on this (if you've got older tech, keep it running, wash/reproof, don't rush out and buy a new eco jacket to save the world).

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