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  • Oh I don't disagree! All I meant was that my notions of mudguard costs are based on years of fitting SKS, which have always done sterling service. Mudguards are a requirement with my crew for winter rides! As for the RedShift stem, I was perfectly serious about fitting one, as costly as it is.

    @Samuli I do want to fit mudguards that are designed for 650b wheels, guards with a non-conforming radius look horrible to my eyes.

  • After using all the listed above I’ve bought PDW guards again for my latest build. My wife who only rides occasionally got Kinesis fend off mudguards at £50. Shame they’re only 50mm

  • Yeah, my comment was meant as a reply to @Sealclub , to say that in my experience Berthouds can be tweaked the same way as the other metal mudguards. They do indeed make a 60mm 650b size that is a good fit with about 48 mm tyres, though depending on how close to the tyre you install them you may want to adjust the radius slightly, as with any mudguard.

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