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I never thought about this but your observation is fkn precise 😅
@carlosbrown I only used it on my first Saeco build and I didnt do many KMs on it but from what I remember is that it was not (much) different imho
That picture of the Gerolsteiner S Workses (S Workii?) with shallow Dura Ace tubs is dreamy! Funny era for bikes and components never quite matching